Rifle shipping?

[ratsnakeboogy]

I need to ship a rifle to a Kentucky FFl dealer, what is the least expensive way, with not too much hassle?

Thanks.

 

[rdl65]

I use the Post Office for shipping rifles or shotguns. That being said not all will do it. I went to one post office and they looked at me like I was a terrorist when I said I wanted to ship a firearm. I tried another one and they didn't have a problem with it. No wonder the USPS is losing money. They ought to hire people that knows the laws on shipping firearms.

 

[ratsnakeboogy]

I don't trust USPS anymore, I have several "lost" items in the past. Anyone have any experience with UPS or FedEx?

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I need to ship a rifle to a Kentucky FFl dealer, what is the least expensive way, with not too much hassle?

Thanks.

If it is within your own state, meaning both parties have legal mailing addresses and live at them, you can ship via USPS, FedEx, UPS, etc. by law. Now, finding one that will ship it is another story.

Outside your own state needs to be done through two FFL dealers, most charge a min. fee (@ $20.00) to do the paperwork.

If it is Blk powder, no problem anywhere in the USA. Just disassemble the weapon and ship.

FDXX75

 

[JimFromTN]

My brother just shipped about 20 rifles from AK down here with no problem using USPS. Its handguns where you have the real issue.

Here is a link from one online gunsmith about shipping to them.

http://brockmansrifles.com/shipping.asp

Of course, you never said what you were shipping it to the ffl dealer for. Are you selling it to somebody thru them?

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

My brother just shipped about 20 rifles from AK down here with no problem using USPS. Its handguns where you have the real issue.

Here is a link from one online gunsmith about shipping to them.

http://brockmansrifles.com/shipping.asp

Of course, you never said what you were shipping it to the ffl dealer for. Are you selling it to somebody thru them?

Jim,

If you are shipping from yourself to yourself in another state, it is legal, You are not allowed to ship from state to state if money is involved or a different owner is going to take ownership of the weapon. Handguns are a definate no no, long guns other than bp also fall under those laws.

Here are the Regs.

(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm
through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a
firearm to a nonlicensed resident of
another State. A nonlicensee may
mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of
his or her own State or to a licensee
in any State. The Postal Service recommends
that long guns be sent by
registered mail and that no marking of
any kind which would indicate the
nature of the contents be placed on
the outside of any parcel containing
firearms. Handguns are not mailable.
A common or contract carrier must be
used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and
922 (a)(2)(A)]

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm
by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm
by a common or contract carrier to a
resident of his or her own State or to
a licensee in any State. A common or
contract carrier must be used to ship
a handgun. In addition, Federal law
requires that the carrier be notified
that the shipment contains a firearm
and prohibits common or contract
carriers from requiring or causing any
label to be placed on any package
indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3),
922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and
478.30]

(B9) May a nonlicensee ship firearms
interstate for his or her use in
hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm
to himself or herself in care of another
person in the State where he or she
intends to hunt or engage in any other
lawful activity. The package should
be addressed to the owner. Persons
other than the owner should not open
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the package and take possession of
the firearm.

(B10) May a person who is relocating
out-of-State move firearms with
other household goods?
Yes. A person who lawfully possesses
a firearm may transport or
ship the firearm interstate when
changing his or her State of residence.
Certain NFA firearms must have
prior approval from the Bureau of ATF
before they may be moved interstate.
The person must notify the mover that
firearms are being transported. He or
she should also check State and local
laws where relocating to ensure that
movement of firearms into the new
State does not violate any State law
or local ordinance.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR
478.28 and 478.31]

FDXX75

 

[rdl65]

The person shipping the firearm does not need an ffl. But has to ship to an ffl if out of state.

 

[W C]

The person shipping the firearm does not need an ffl. But has to ship to an ffl if out of state.

THIS but for LONG GUNS ONLY.....also, if it's being sent to a gunsmith with an FFL he can send it directly back to you. A few weeks ago I used USPS to mail a rifle to Adco Firearms in Ohio. They did what the work order stated and mailed it directly back to me. All perfectly legal. Handguns have a whole different set of rules to play by.

 

[ratsnakeboogy]

Shipping to an FFL dealer for another person to buy.

I called UPS, they said no problem just bring it to the knoxville hub.

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I am surprised, my brother works for UPS and the local hub he is dispatched out of will not ship firearms unless the item has a call tag from the receiving FFL holder or the shipper has proof of their FFL. I have tried multiple times, I just spend the $20 and have my local gunshop handle the transaction.

Wish you luck

FDXX75

 

[rdl65]

I am surprised, my brother works for UPS and the local hub he is dispatched out of will not ship firearms unless the item has a call tag from the receiving FFL holder or the shipper has proof of their FFL. I have tried multiple times, I just spend the $20 and have my local gunshop handle the transaction.

Wish you luck

FDXX75

A lot of shipping places play by their own rules not by what is legal. Legally you can ship a handgun by common carrier without an ffl if you are shipping to an ffl. The USPS will not ship handguns though.

 

[FLTENNHUNTER1]

The problem is too many liberals passing too many gun laws.

 

[Howa]

If you don't tell them what is in the package, then you can ship anything you want, anywhere you want, with no hassle. IF they ASK, then it is "machine parts". Easiest way to do it, keep it simple.

 

[JimFromTN]

Jim,

If you are shipping from yourself to yourself in another state, it is legal, You are not allowed to ship from state to state if money is involved or a different owner is going to take ownership of the weapon. Handguns are a definate no no, long guns other than bp also fall under those laws.

FDXX75

Actually, if you really look at the regs, the only difference between a long gun and a hand gun is that you cannot ship a hand gun thru the post office. The problem is that the other carriers won't ship hand guns without an FFL regardless of the actual law. I don't really think any of them really understand the law. I spoke with a gun dealer here in Nashville and they did not really understand the law. I don't think most law enforcement agencies know the law. When my brother was trying to find someone to ship his handguns, he spoke with an air cargo company that did not ship becuase they kept getting busted. They would always get off but they could not afford the attorney fees. This was in AK where liberals are shot on site so it isn't some liberal agenda. I finally got a definate answer by calling the BATF in Washington DC.

 

[pcrc]

I sent my 700 to Kentucky few weeks back for safety repair. I shipped it UPS and it had to be shipped from hub. UPS store would not ship it when I told them it was a firearm. Only reason I told them it was firearm was because they needed to know what it was when I wanted it insured. They said shipping guns could only be done from hub. Went to hub and they it shipped it no problem knowing it was a gun. I think it just had to be labled as hazardous. Repair shop shipped it right back to me no problem when repaired.