Remington 700 rifle

[TNlandowner]

I'm looking for opinions with suggestions from Remington 700 owners. I have a chance to buy a new rifle at a great price. This includes a rifle from the Remington custom shop if desired. With this said, I'm looking for a rifle that will truly shoot sub-moa out of the box so to speak. I am not interested in a rifle with Hogue over-molded stock that is flexible and doesn't have a free-floated barrel. As for caliber, I'm torn between 308 Win & 300 Win Mag. The 300 Win gives many advantages, but I already load 308 Win ammo (a-lot) for my kids' rifles.

What say ye?

JH

 

[TNRifleman]

What will you be using it for?

 

[waterfowlwidowmaker]

I'd go with a 5R model in either of your caliber choices. I had a 20" barreled 308 and it was a tack driver. I still own a 24" barreled 300wm and it shoots even better. Although the hs stock is perfectly serviceable, I prefer McMillan stocks and put an htg on both of those rifles. My current hunting load in the 300wm is a 200gr accubond right at 3000fps and it's a hammer for sure.

 

[Deer Assassin]

5r

 

[infoman jr.]

5R no doubt.

 

[LanceS4803]

5R .308
See a trend here?

Mine is the 20" threaded barrel version. Cloverleafs at 100yds using 168gr FGMM.

 

[Deer Assassin]

viewtopic.php?t=315000&p=4073523

 

[megalomaniac]

If they still make the rem 700 custom shop KS mountain rifles... well, I'd take that one over anything else remmy makes...

as far as the Hogue Tupperware stocks... I have a .308 with a bull barrel with that stock, and I have yet to shoot an over MOA group out to 400 yds out if it right out of the box. The stock is junk, but the rifle shoots lights out, so I can live with the ugly stock.

 

[Gvit]

I had a 5R Mil Spec .308 - way too big & heavy to hunt with (I had the 24 inch barrel, 20 may be more forgiving). X-Mark trigger is junk also - I replaced mine w/ a Timney within a month of owning it. As far as accuracy goes, it was an absolute tack driver out of the box. After replacing the trigger & torquing down the stock (45 lbs was the magic number as I recall), I was shooting 1/2 inch groups @ 200 yards w/ 165 grn Nosler BT's over Varget - which was stellar for me as I'm MAYBE a slightly above-average shooter at best.
In short, great bench rest shooter, not the best choice for hunting.


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[Gvit]

btw - .308 all the way over 300 Win Mag - more versatile, cheaper & easier on your shoulder (your kid's also)


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[Gvit]

-though I do love a 300 Win Mag...


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[infoman jr.]

I had a 5R Mil Spec .308 - way too big & heavy to hunt with (I had the 24 inch barrel, 20 may be more forgiving). X-Mark trigger is junk also - I replaced mine w/ a Timney within a month of owning it. As far as accuracy goes, it was an absolute tack driver out of the box. After replacing the trigger & torquing down the stock (45 lbs was the magic number as I recall), I was shooting 1/2 inch groups @ 200 yards w/ 165 grn Nosler BT's over Varget - which was stellar for me as I'm MAYBE a slightly above-average shooter at best.
In short, great bench rest shooter, not the best choice for hunting.


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I've had no issues carrying my win mag with 26" barrel hunting, and I've had no issues producing pretty targets with my factory trigger. Different strokes, as they say.

 

[LanceS4803]

The 20" 5R is heavy, escpeically when topped with a large scope.
Not the first choice to tote up and down hills all day, but perfect for a blind.

 

[Deer Assassin]

jewell trigger

 

[Gvit]

I'm a Timney guy - they give you a Tootsie Pop w/ every trigger purchase


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[Deer Assassin]

I'm a Timney guy - they give you a Tootsie Pop w/ every trigger purchase


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thats the least they could do

 

[Hunter 257W]

If you want a rifle for hunting from blinds across huge fields get one of these. I have one and it sits on sandbags like a rock. The wide flat forearm makes it very easy to get it's full potential accuracy with little effort/experience. Now I won't lie to you and tell you that it's easy to carry around. :)

http://remingtoncustom.com/40X_40xbRangemaster.aspx

 

[TNlandowner]

Thanks for the replies. Sorry for my slow response, I've been traveling without a chance to log in. I want a hunting rifle to shoot 800 - 900 yards. The 300 Win Mag fits this need with improved BC bullet options and more speed (less drift).

I'm familiar with the 308 Win / 7.62x51 NATO rifles with 5-R MILSPEC barrel rifling. I fired many M24 rifles in the past. I need to get on the Remington website and see if they produce a 300 with the 5R rifling. I love building custom rifle loads and want a rifle that will allow me to further develop my skill level in this effort. A 300 WIN rifle firing a 190 gr or 200 gr LR Accubond sounds like an awesome pairing.

Weight isn't a big issue since I'm not planning to hike the Rockies carrying the new "heavy" rifle.

 

[Hunter 257W]

The 700 Sendero is available in 300Win Mag. I agree that if you want to shoot at ranges that far out you need more velocity than the 308 can muster. High BC's are good but you need to start a bullet out fast too unless you want to have a 50 foot high midrange trajectory path. For myself, the 264 Win Mag Sendero has always tempted me mightily. Lots of good bullets available in 264 caliber.

 

[MUP]

Excellent choice imo. :tu:

 

[waterfowlwidowmaker]

Thanks for the replies. Sorry for my slow response, I've been traveling without a chance to log in. I want a hunting rifle to shoot 800 - 900 yards. The 300 Win Mag fits this need with improved BC bullet options and more speed (less drift).

I'm familiar with the 308 Win / 7.62x51 NATO rifles with 5-R MILSPEC barrel rifling. I fired many M24 rifles in the past. I need to get on the Remington website and see if they produce a 300 with the 5R rifling. I love building custom rifle loads and want a rifle that will allow me to further develop my skill level in this effort. A 300 WIN rifle firing a 190 gr or 200 gr LR Accubond sounds like an awesome pairing.

Weight isn't a big issue since I'm not planning to hike the Rockies carrying the new "heavy" rifle.

They definitely make it but you won't find it on their website. The one in he link below is exactly like the one I have and mentioned in my post above. They also make it (or did) with a 26" barrel that has an unthreaded muzzle.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =548154923

 

[Hunter 257W]

I'm not sure what 5R Mil-Spec rifling is? Why is the rifling that the army uses any better for hunting than what a normal custom shop 700 would have? I assume the military version of the 700 has this rifling - never knew it differed from the normal production 700's. Not sure I believe it's an advantage. I've been involved with the Army and how requirements are set and approved too long to think that we are always right. :)

 

[infoman jr.]

Thanks for the replies. Sorry for my slow response, I've been traveling without a chance to log in. I want a hunting rifle to shoot 800 - 900 yards. The 300 Win Mag fits this need with improved BC bullet options and more speed (less drift).

I'm familiar with the 308 Win / 7.62x51 NATO rifles with 5-R MILSPEC barrel rifling. I fired many M24 rifles in the past. I need to get on the Remington website and see if they produce a 300 with the 5R rifling. I love building custom rifle loads and want a rifle that will allow me to further develop my skill level in this effort. A 300 WIN rifle firing a 190 gr or 200 gr LR Accubond sounds like an awesome pairing.

Weight isn't a big issue since I'm not planning to hike the Rockies carrying the new "heavy" rifle.

Mine's a laser with 190s.

 

[infoman jr.]

Another option for a 5R rifle is Remington RAMAC 85196 which has a cerakoted barreled action with fluted 5R barrel, threaded muzzle, large bolt knob, and tan HS Precision stock. You can get it in .308 and win mag. I'm going to be selling both of my 700 .308s to buy one of these.

 

[LanceS4803]

I'm not sure what 5R Mil-Spec rifling is? Why is the rifling that the army uses any better for hunting than what a normal custom shop 700 would have? I assume the military version of the 700 has this rifling - never knew it differed from the normal production 700's. Not sure I believe it's an advantage. I've been involved with the Army and how requirements are set and approved too long to think that we are always right. :)

A whole lot of time is spent debating the advantage of the 5 groove rifling.
http://benchrest.com/showthread.php?68582-5R-rifling

 

[DaveB]

I thought the 5R rifling is designed to improve accuracy, easier cleaning was a side effect.

 

[mr.big]

from what I have seen the 5R rifiling may go more rounds between cleaning before accuracy falls off but I have gotten better accuracy from the old 4 groove style bbls,,but they do seem to need cleaned more often to maintain that accuracy,,if your gonna be shooting a lot at steel or whatever on really long strings the 5R may be better but shooting for the absolute best accuracy the 4 groove may be better,,

outside in real conditions I doubt most of us will be able to tell any difference,,

 

[LanceS4803]

outside in real conditions I doubt most of us will be able to tell any difference,,

That says it all.

 

[TNlandowner]

Another option for a 5R rifle is Remington RAMAC 85196 which has a cerakoted barreled action with fluted 5R barrel, threaded muzzle, large bolt knob, and tan HS Precision stock. You can get it in .308 and win mag. I'm going to be selling both of my 700 .308s to buy one of these.

That is a nice looking rifle... Is it a limited production gun?

Which trigger comes with the rifle? X-Mark Pro or the 40-X?

 

[infoman jr.]

Another option for a 5R rifle is Remington RAMAC 85196 which has a cerakoted barreled action with fluted 5R barrel, threaded muzzle, large bolt knob, and tan HS Precision stock. You can get it in .308 and win mag. I'm going to be selling both of my 700 .308s to buy one of these.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/UserImages/177404/997207168/wm_7895476.jpg[img][/quote]

That is a nice looking rifle... Is it a limited production gun?

Which trigger comes with the rifle? X-Mark Pro or the 40-X?[/quote]
It is a limited production gun through Accusport (as are all 5Rs). I'm not 100% sure, but I'd bet it has an XMark Pro.