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I know that many of you hunt rugged, mountainous property. Do you quarter your deer or drag it out? Quartering is much more common out West, and for good reason, but I don't think many of us east of the Mississippi do it. I'm thinking about starting this year. If you quarter, do you use game bags or just plastic trash bags? I often skin and butcher my deer on my own for processing and think it shouldn't be too hard to quarter it up in the field.

Is this legal? With tele-check or online check, quartering a deer shouldn't be an issue with a game warden should it?
 
barkscaler said:
Must be able to show what sex it is.

I don't think that matters as much anymore now that they have gone to the "antlerless" "antlered" check in description.

Using that as a guideline, you could always hump the head out with the meat. The only exception I can think of would be if you killed an antlered doe.

Of course I'm not TWRA so don;t take my word on it. I drag them out.
 
That's what they make ATVs and lots of extra sections of winch cable for! :)

We don't even field dress deer on location. All harvested deer are weighed live-weight. Gutting is done at the cleaning shed.
 
Ive thought about this very thing. Im so burned out on hunting public land that is anywhere close to being able to get a deer out. Im to the point that if I cant stay all day, I honestly dont know if its worth hunting some of my best places due to that very thing.

I have also considered this on my hunt this fall in Kansas.
 
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barkscaler said:
Must be able to show what sex it is.

The TWRA Rules in Chapter 1660-01 are silent as to the issue. As far as I can tell, they make no reference to nor explicitly require the hunter to prove the sex of the deer killed. The TWRA Wildlife Proclamations are a cumbersome mess and overly burdensome to serve as any sort of guidance to the hunting public for any purpose, including compliance with the applicable statutes and regulations. Definitely not an administrative agency best practice. The best I could tell, the Hunting Guide is also silent as to (a) quartering, and (b) having to prove the sex of the deer. I did not bother researching the TN Code, but if the regulations are silent, the Code likely is as well. Nonetheless, if not the letter of the law and regulations, then the spirit or intent must be that a hunter needs to be able to prove the sex, otherwise there would be no antlerless and antlered restrictions. So, it must be a question of "when" does the hunter have to prove the sex of the deer? Whenever a game warden happens by? Anytime prior to delivery at a check station, game processor, or the hunter's home for processing? That can't be. Otherwise, why allow for online or mobile app check in? The best I could find was on the TWRA website, which is not a law or regulation, but which provides: "Evidence of the big game animal�s species and sex must be available for inspection by TWRA personnel until the animal is checked in[/u" (emphasis mine). At least based on this, I would argue that if you use the mobile app to check in the deer and you can use the app in the field (i.e., you have wireless or internet access) to check in the deer, then you can quarter the deer, leave the head, sex organs, etc. if you successfully check in the deer using the mobile app. If you don't have access to use the mobile app to check in the deer, you have to drag the deer until you have such access and then quarter it.
 
Poser said:
OHVATN said:
barkscaler said:
Must be able to show what sex it is.

If you don't have access to use the mobile app to check in the deer, you have to drag the deer until you have such access and then quarter it.

In western states, it is not uncommon to carry the testicales with the quarters for proof of sex. In TN, however, it is my understanding that the head of the deer will suffice as evidence of sex, though, you could certainly could keep the sex organs as evidence of sex instead. Either way, there is nothing in the regulation that would prohibit you from quartering the deer for later check in.

I agree. If you don't have mobile app access, then quarter it and carry the head and/or sex organs and check it in later that day.
 
I have twin boys age 16 as my ATV deer draggers. Out west my elk was 1 mile from the truck and I quartered him, needed help to get the head and hide out. I was faced with what to do when I killed a nice muley a long way from my vehicle when out of nowhere a fellow camper arrived won an ATV.
 
I'll be testing the quartering/packing out approach this year. I think there are lots of sensible reasons to do it this way, but I have always dragged. The last deer I killed in OH was a major PITA, and if it wasn't for a couple of helpful young men who came by I would probably still be dragging. This is what will be on my back this year.

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to answer the original question on the bags, from a taxidermy stand point and I imagine the same issue with the meat would be the heat...Use a breathable bag such as cheesecloth....plastic bags hold heat terrible...the cheesecloth with allow your hide and meat to cool down more rapidly.....and keep bugs off of it as well....simple way to think about it is "moist heat" (fresh kill meat and hides) = bacteria....spoiled meat and hair loss on hides



Taxidermy tip.......if you are gonna keep your trophy in the freezer for a bit before taking it to taxidermist.....never put it in plastic bag (or any type of bag) annd tie shut.....leave bag open in freezer so that hide cools as fast as possible.....taxidermists can fix a many a thing but we cant make a deer animal grow new hair!
 
Well, I have only quartered and packed out one deer. But after all, they are just a small elk.

1-Use mesh game bags. get good ones, wash them out and they are reusable for many trips. One bag should be plenty for a deer.
2- Don't just quarter them, bone them out. Why cary bone? Take you about two minutes to bone out a hindquarter.
3-If you are saving the cape or hide, put that in a seperate bag.
4- Just about any pack frame will handle a deer. In fact, for most TN deer, your kids school bag will work.
5- 2-front shoulders, 2-bones out hinies, back strap and tenders. That is it. What 35-40-pounds. Add extra for head if mounting.

Now elk...that is a different story.

You won't drag even a deer far in this kind of country.



And even the smaller ones are heavy.

 
use good meat bags not trash bags, I have done several this way and I must say it is much easier than draggin out of the huge hollers in east tn. as bow writer said don't just quarter debone as well so much easier to pack out 40lbs than drag 120 of dead weight!!!
 
Bought some Hideaway brand game bags yesterday at BP. Cotton. 30" x 50". There's an Alaska Game Bag 4 pack available on BP's website for a really good price, but i was getting something else so I got two bags of the Hideaway brand at the BP store. If its an easy, short drag I May still drag. Otherwise I'm going to start quartering. I'm going to quarter the deer anyway when I butcher it. Might as well save my back (and heart) and do it sooner.
 
Poser said:
I overheard a guy this morning tell a story about him and 3 other guys dragging a deer for 3 miles. I just don't get it. 4 grown men and it never occurred to one of them to quarter it and carry it out. At some point, you have to consider how engrained certain aspects of hunting are. East of the MS, it's as if packing a deer out has never been invented. This is a great lesson in using your head and always having a willingness to learn. I hate to say it, but any person who drags a deer for 1 mile is has a questionable amount of brain cells in the innovation department. Personally, I think dragging a deer for a mile is crazy, even for 2 guys. Do hunters just like telling stories about dragging deer?

Put it on a pole, throw it across your back... Do something other than the least efficient way of recovery.

I did a pole deal many, many years ago. Once was enough. I'll drag before doing that again.
 
Poser said:
I overheard a guy this morning tell a story about him and 3 other guys dragging a deer for 3 miles. I just don't get it. 4 grown men and it never occurred to one of them to quarter it and carry it out. At some point, you have to consider how engrained certain aspects of hunting are. East of the MS, it's as if packing a deer out has never been invented. This is a great lesson in using your head and always having a willingness to learn. I hate to say it, but any person who drags a deer for 1 mile is has a questionable amount of brain cells in the innovation department. Personally, I think dragging a deer for a mile is crazy, even for 2 guys. Do hunters just like telling stories about dragging deer?

Put it on a pole, throw it across your back... Do something other than the least efficient way of recovery.

Dragging a deer is not difficult. Pull with the grain of the fur and it slides easily. A big rack is eays to hold on to. I use my safety rope to secure the legs behind the head and pull. There is very little drag. I have pulled 200 # bucks a very long ways with very little effort. I would drag a deer any distance rather than quarter and have to make multiple trips. A large bear, elk or moose could not be dragged. We don't have much of that east of the Mississippi. That is why packing out is a western phenomenon.
 
I have always considered it the reward side of killing one. To some, pulling the trigger is everything, and the only thing. They don't enjoy anything else including plots, road improvement, and managing for larger bucks. I enjoy it all, including the drag, it means I was successful. Your point? :)
 
Poser, thinking about it some more, I wouldn't be surprised if that guy was bragging, doing some chest thumping without realizing he was just making a fool of himself.

East TN hunters are probably more likely to quarter than drag given the terrain. Another reason Western hunters quarter (and not just elk, but mulies, white tails, antelope, etc.) is all distances are just much greater out west. When I've elk and mule deer hunted, the trail head is at 6,000 feet, ride the horse 9 hours over the 10,000 foot pass, down to make camp at 8,000 feet and hunt between there and 10,000 feet. Wiser to quarter and haul the meat in saddle bags (or your pack if on foot) than drag a deer even a short distance in grizzly country. Don't have ol' grizz around here. Couple that with many places out West don't allow vehicles.

In addition to being better for your back and heart, I think quartering must be better for the meat quality. I'm surprised that some don't even field dress. I guess if you are only hunting mature bucks or don't like venison and will donate to HftH, that makes sense. Who wants that tough old meat. But a doe, I want to get her dressed right away. To me, quartering will just get that good venison cooled down that much quicker. Further, many aren't going to do their own processing so quartering to them doesn't make any sense if they aren't going to skin and butcher the deer themselves in any event.

To each his or her own and if it's a short drag I might. Still, if it's rugged terrain (and that includes logs, rocks, ditches, creeks, thick/thorny stuff, not just mountains) a long drag (say more than 1/4 mile, maybe even a shorter distance), then I'm quartering.
 
Quartering is a good option at times. Large Potato or Onion bags are the best I have found, as it allows the meat to get air while still making it easy to pack and handle. We use these out west and they work great even when you get back to camp, as the bags of meat can simply be hung up out of ground critters reach and it will cool/dry just fine.
 
If I tried to drag a 100 lb deer a mile, they would be carrying me out on a stretcher. LOL Thank god for four wheelers and friends with a strong back and weak mind. :D
 
I'm on a lease that the members have made comments about people field dressing deer in the woods. They would 'prefer' if people would pull the deer all the way out of the woods and field dress it in a specific spot.

I've ALWAYS field dressed deer where I found them.

I think quartering would be really easy, but I would be afraid of my lease members reactions to finding a quartered out deer laying in the woods...
 
My Wife can sew, actually pretty artistic. Made me 3 body bags out of canvas-like fabric from Hancock Fabric store where you can buy big heavy duty brass zippers on a roll. Nylon rope for closing top and bottom. Big enough to enclose an elk. Washable. Breathable. Lasted over ten years and I beat them up pretty bad.
 

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