Pres Island reports
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AT Hiker":3mxztra3 said:
Washed them all away. None of you guys need to put in for the hunt for the next few years at least :rotf:
Deerbuster1996
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shouldn't have hurt them at all. Most people I hear that fish on the river said it has been very low for this time of year.AT Hiker":2ee30yar said:
AT Hiker":3nvrj6gw said:
Truth be told, I live right here in a suburb of Memphis and have never applied. I probably need to get on that.
The pics were on here back about Christmas. Some nice ones killed.
catman529
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Bet it's not as dry as it was during the october doe hunt. Was a desert when I was there. Wish I could have hunted it before the 2011 flood, probably could have killed 2 on the first day from what they told me about how big the herd was.
rstodd
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I was there last fall also, but had didn't get one, and it was very dry. I wonder how hard it would be to get the doe hunt again?
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TN Whitetail Freak
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if you got chosen for a doe hunt does that reduce your buck hunt points? or are points just points regardless what you draw for
TLRanger
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Did you hear about the quota turkey hunts there?
Archery only. Must have a 9 inch beard or longer. :poke:
Archery only. Must have a 9 inch beard or longer. :poke:
Ahuntin1
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If I had to guess, I bet there was a little dry land on PI during the flooding back in January.
Can you hunt sheds out there or is the place closed and off limits?
You cannot access the island unless you have been drawn and are scouting or hunting for said hunt, so no shed hunting this time of year.BULL MOOSE":1rjspjoh said:
From the draw hunt I assume? The major flooding didn't start until around December 28 and it lasted two weeks, or thereabouts. It was the 6th highest flood of record for our area but you heard very little about it because the MS River Levees and other flood control structures performed flawlessly for the most part.muddyboots":27wymjtb said:
easy45
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For the next 8 years I don't care what it looks like, but then it needs to be perfect, at least that's when I'm predicting I'll get drawn again.
BSK
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AT Hiker":1ns0ewwv said:
AT Hiker,
Most GPS and radio-telemetry studies of deer in flood-plain environments find that those deer have adapted to the periodic/annual flooding events, and rapidly shift out of the flood-plain, sometimes considerable distances. This is especially true where man-made levees allow close and easy escape from the flood-waters. Only in extreme flood situations have these studies found significant mortality, and then only where levees don't exist, hence travel distances needed to escape flood-waters can be extreme during record-breaking flood events.
Mike Belt
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Due to my broken hip I missed my December draw hunt last year. I had 4 of my friends that did make it and they said the place appeared to have not recovered from the floods from several years back and there wasn't near the sign and sightings.
Buzzard Breath
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I've never been to President's Island but want to check it out someday just to see it. I've looked at the aerials of it and have a simple question. What keeps it from just washing away? Or, at least splitting it half. From the aerials, it looks like it floods regularly with there being small channels of water cut through the middle of the island. I'm sure the businesses are protected with levies, but what about the rest of the island?
megalomaniac
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BSK":14o2tydt said:
BSK, what made the flood so different and devastating for the herd on PI was their escape routes... One direction was across the MS river... no way they would survive if they went that way. The other way took them across numerous highways and interstates which led to an unreal number of deer- car collisions. One of the wardens on the island stationed in that area told me he dispatched on average 7-8 deer per day that were hit and wounded during peak flood. That doesn't count the number of deer hit and killed per day. Most estimates put the herd at a loss of around 60-75% just from that one flood!
BSK
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Buzzard Breath":3i3eaiyv said:
These type of major flood-plain environments are highly dynamic, in that they are constantly changing. Annual floods shift the course of the river every year, and over the course of a 100 years, the channel and islands can change fairly dramatically (just look at old maps compared to present day).
Ahuntin1
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Poser":143re3i6 said:
The USGS quad maps actually show that it is two islands, Presidents Island #45 and Vice Presidents Island #46. It must have been split at the time that the island numbers were assigned. It probably did not have the river channel running through the middle, but it might have been a more defined old channel bed at that time.
The main thing that protects it is the northeast corner has a very high bank, thus preventing over topping unless a major event happens (2011 & 2015). Because of this, the majority of the flood water backs up onto the island from the southwest corner, thus reducing the hydraulic head when it does over top, which significantly reduces damages once the water does over top from the north. In layman terms, the water more often ponds on the island from the southwest corner than over tops and flows through the island like we saw in 2011 and this past winter.Buzzard Breath":2g2yt8a3 said:
PI around the peak of the flood in May 2011.
While out surveying the river during and post 2011 flood and doing over bank reconnaissance, we often times seen tons of deer hoarded up on the levees as well as does and bucks swimming the river, which is fairly common based on my years on the river. With that said, we did find some deer remains 15-20' above sandbars in willows and such that clearly showed many deer met their demise while trying to escape the ravaging flood waters.
It is a natural grade elevation (not man made), but with that said, we realize the importance of it and take every measure we can to keep it intact. If you have been out there lately, you will see a very huge area that has been back filled with 2 million cubic yards of dredge material and reinforced with a stone cap and stone vertical face on the northeast corner. In essence, we do not want the bank to unravel and create a cutoff to McKellar Lake as that would be problematic on so many levels.Poser":3iwpnpi7 said:
Other than flood damage repairs like we performed post 2011, we do not take any extraordinary measures other than dredging McKellar Lake and disposing on upland disposal areas like Vice President's Island and such.Poser":3iwpnpi7 said:
Buzzard Breath
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Interesting stuff. Thanks to everyone for taking the time an answer my question.
Along these same lines, Quality Whitetails published a great article titled "Bucks Are Loyal to Home Ranges, Come Hell or High Water" back in 2011 that summarized the GPS collared research University of Arkansas studentsand AGFC employees did in the MS floodplain during the 2011 flood. A summary of sorts can be seen at this link. Click through the pictures in sequential order. https://www.qdma.com/galleries/bucks-are-loyal-to-home-ranges-come-hell-or-high-waterBSK":j455gxdf said:
