Playoff Chaos

[Bamamonts]

 

[cbhunter]

The storm is brewing for sure

 

[PalsPal]

Our best bet is for Bama to win the SEC champ game. They're getting in the CFP no matter what, as I guess the Saban effect is still in place, so maybe they can eliminate someone else.

Surely then our convincing win will mean something!

 

[Wrangler95]

Never thought I'd see the day when I would be for Gators and the Buckeyes but it is in the Vols best interest!I sure hope Texas beat's A&M and Notre Dame loses!

 

[Bamamonts]

I think Indiana should be out if they lose to Ohio St.
If the loser of the SECCG has 3 losses are they out?

 

[PalsPal]

I think Indiana should be out if they lose to Ohio St.
If the loser of the SECCG has 3 losses are they out?

Yes unless it's Bama.

There will be too many 2 loss teams that didn't play in the champ game.

 

[Zulu]

If the loser of the SECCG has 3 losses are they out?

We've been discussing this a lot in my little group ... I think the only way that's "fair" (funny word to use in this situation) is to disregard the championship game for the loser. ie a 10-2 team that loses its championship is looked at as if it were 10-2, not 10-3. Otherwise they're going to find themselves in situations where teams don't want to play for their conference championship and risk getting knocked out of the playoffs.

 

[OakHillHunter]

I think the 2 Championship teams make it regardless of the 3rd loss. I believe you get into resume comparison between all the 10-2 teams outside of the Championship game to see who is the odd one out. As was said before if you are going to get knocked out from playing the championship game then what would be the point, because the loser of the game turns into a victim of success.

 

[cbhunter]

I agree that whoever loses sec champ game should be in and that loss should be overlooked

 

[DayDay]

We've been discussing this a lot in my little group ... I think the only way that's "fair" (funny word to use in this situation) is to disregard the championship game for the loser. ie a 10-2 team that loses its championship is looked at as if it were 10-2, not 10-3. Otherwise they're going to find themselves in situations where teams don't want to play for their conference championship and risk getting knocked out of the playoffs.

I'm leaning this way as well. Ignore the championship game for the loser and rank them based on their regular season record.

One or both teams in a conference championship game could enter the game being ranked lower than conference teams left out.

 

[UCStandSitter]

Welcome to the new BCS...

 

[themanpcl]

when they first announced the 12 playoff, i said, team #13 and on will fluffy kitten that there need to be more teams...

 

[MUP]

I'm looking at the future a little differently regarding championship games. I think every conference should have one, after all, the name of the game is more games equals more money right? For the NCAA that is.

 

[cbhunter]

I'm looking at the future a little differently regarding championship games. I think every conference should have one, after all, the name of the game is more games equals more money right? For the NCAA that is.

I agree these games should remain. I just don't think you can punish the runner up for losing that game if you are getting multiple conference teams in the playoffs

That's basically meant for the two powerhouse conferences. I don't think the lesser conferences "runner up's" necessarily deserve a spot…..which brings up more drama lol

 

[BamaProud]

I said several weeks ago that there is a good chance of a 3-loss team in the playoffs.

 

[Bamamonts]

Winning the SECCG or just making the SECCG should be a big deal. That's why I don't like auto bids. Somebody is going to get screwed. Whichever SEC team that gets left out would beat the number 12 team.

 

[Gravey]

Somebody will be upset regardless of how it plays out. If they change it next year there will still be somebody mad.

 

[PalsPal]

Kiffin doesn't want to play in it because he knows what will happen.


Texas is the only SEC program with one loss this season, while five others — Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M and Kiffin's Rebels — have two each. Imagine if Texas A&M defeats Texas next weekend and every other program wins out, and you've got the makings of Kiffin's proposed crisis: Play in Atlanta at your own risk
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/11/19/sec-championship-game-college-football-playoff/

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

I said several weeks ago that there is a good chance of a 3-loss team in the playoffs.

Nobody wanted to hear that. I said it at the beginning of the season. https://www.tndeer.com/threads/florida-st-vs-gt.456570/page-2#post-5966438

 

[buckaroo]

No way should a 3 loss team go before 4-5 2 loss team

 

[TNReb]

Kiffin doesn't want to play in it because he knows what will happen.


Texas is the only SEC program with one loss this season, while five others — Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, Texas A&M and Kiffin's Rebels — have two each. Imagine if Texas A&M defeats Texas next weekend and every other program wins out, and you've got the makings of Kiffin's proposed crisis: Play in Atlanta at your own risk
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/11/19/sec-championship-game-college-football-playoff/

Kiffin's quote from the article:

I've talked to other coaches, so I'll just kind of give you the feeling from some other coaches that, you know, they don't want to be in it," Kiffin said Monday during his weekly news conference. "You know, the reward to get a bye [in the CFP] versus the risk to get knocked out completely, I mean, that's a really big risk just to get a bye.

There's zero benefit to playing in the SEC championship game. Bragging about a conference championship vs losing your spot in the CFP.

 

[Gravey]

If you're a 2-loss team playing in the SEC championship game and lose I don't think you should be leapfrogged by another SEC school or really anybody else for the playoffs. . Shouldn't be penalized for playing in a game that others in your own league didn't make it to. Hate to admit it but I agree with Kiffin on this.

 

[Bamamonts]

Kiffin's quote from the article:



There's zero benefit to playing in the SEC championship game. Bragging about a conference championship vs losing your spot in the CFP.

He's right.

 

[PalsPal]

There's zero benefit to playing in the SEC championship game. Bragging about a conference championship vs losing your spot in the CFP.

Exactly. The problem with the argument that the loser shouldn't be penalized loses steam when you factor that the teams playing in it could come down to drawing straws.

How awesome would that be? The ADs of the teams gathered around drawing. That would be TV gold.

And, I'm sure everyone would be fine if A&M is the losing team in the championship game and them going while knocking your team out.

 

[Bamamonts]

 

[Zulu]

Exactly. The problem with the argument that the loser shouldn't be penalized loses steam when you factor that the teams playing in it could come down to drawing straws.

How awesome would that be? The ADs of the teams gathered around drawing. That would be TV gold.

And, I'm sure everyone would be fine if A&M is the losing team in the championship game and them going while knocking your team out.

I don't think anyone's saying that the SEC Championship loser should automatically get it ... just that the loss shouldn't count against them. In your scenario a randomly selected Texas A&M (currently ranked 15) goes to Atlanta and loses...they'd stay number 15 and still wouldn't be in the playoffs. Now look at this scenario: your #11 Vols are selected to go to Atlanta and lose. Should they fall to 13+ and out of the playoffs, or should they keep their #11 playoff spot?

I think my son (math genius) came up with the best solution: freeze the rankings after the last game of the regular season...the championship games will be for awarding the byes and determining which non-power-4 team gets in. It solves all the problems we've been talking about and keeps everyone on a level field.

 

[wayne]

So Arkansas is a notable win for Texas, but a bad loss for Tennessee?

 

[BamaProud]

Kiffin's quote from the article:



There's zero benefit to playing in the SEC championship game. Bragging about a conference championship vs losing your spot in the CFP.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but the counter-argument to that is that Playing in the SEC championship game would boost your strength of schedule significantly.

 

[Wrangler95]

Using the SEC for instance, what if a two loss team loses in the SECCG and makes it a 3 loss team and it loses badly,I don't believe that team would have a place in the playoffs

 

[Wrangler95]

So Arkansas is a notable win for Texas, but a bad loss for Tennessee?

Texas don't have a quality win,Vandy is their best win