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Using throw-an-mow techniques, I need to wait until the fall/winter crimson clover and wheat had seeded out and died before broadcast seeding my summer crops and then mow the dead fall/winter crop down on top as mulch. Last year, everything had seeded and died by May 20. This year, everything looks to be a week to 10 days late. Wheat is still green (although seeded out), and crimson still has some red blooms.
 
Our very rainy May extended die down at my place. I went ahead on about an 8 acre area a couple weeks ago and put out some summer plots. They are doing well. Sprayed some RR plots today even with the winds I think it did ok. Put out about 800 lbs of fertilizer yesterday before the rain overnight. I'm afraid to mow my clover right now because I've had some dropping babies. Will probably spray them next week instead.
 
About half my crimson was seeded out and the other half still red last weekend.

But never seen such a cover crop in my fields. Lessee was planning on rolling it dry, and I laughed... he was very happy though.. got 186 haylage bales from just 30 acres. Still has another 60a to cut, but ground too soft still.

He is now a believer in focusing more on cover crops more than summer cash crops!
 

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Checked my plots today. Crimson blooms have died as has wheat. Looks like planting is in my very near future. Hope to get it done in the next few days, during this 3-4 day "drought!"
 
Following your advice I planted dwarf Milo, forage beans, and buckwheat just prior to this last monsoon. Unfortunately my cultipack broke and I didn't get to cultipack the seeds in, hoping the hard rain did it for me. I will be bush hogging this and disking it in in the fall and sowing again with crimson and BFO. Maybe broadcast some wheat in October.
 
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Following your advice I planted dwarf Milo, forage beans, and buckwheat just prior to this last monsoon. Unfortunately my cultipack broke and I didn't get to cultipack the seeds in, hoping the hard rain did it for me. I will be bush hogging this and disking it in in the fall and sowing again with crimson and BFO. Maybe broadcast some wheat in October.
I'm going with a slightly different mixture this summer. I need to be able to spray the plots with grass-killer in July to fight off the massive foxtail invasion I get every late summer. Because of that, I can't use any type of sorghum (it's in the grass family). So this year, it's forage soybeans, cowpeas, buckwheat, and sunflowers. The sunflowers are in the mix just to give the forage soybeans something to climb on, but I suspect the deer will eat them up pretty fast. We shall see.
 
Got my summer plot in Wednesday. Last year I only used buckwheat and sorghum. This year I added forage soybeans to see how they do. I was impressed with the sorghum last year and the deer usage once the seed heads matured.
 
I planted sunflowers and buckwheat the first week of May and they are doing good. The deer are eating both at this point. To my wife's dismay there are several tops of sunflowers gone. I drove up yesterday evening on the tractor do do some bush hogging and 3 were hammering the sunflowers! Lol
 

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We planted what we are doing for summer in-between the rains early may. We have converted a ton of plots into clover the last few years. Letting the rest grow up for a while.
 
Whats the order again? Seed, mow, then spray? Or do I have it wrong?
We have done it multiple ways with success but normally we spray then as the standing vegetation starts to die sow then mow. Try to time before a rain.

Some will sow then spray and just let the thatch lay down naturally...or mow it after it starts to turn.

Then if your vegetation is real tall...sow, mow then spray shorter vegetation thats closer to ground.

Whichever order you choose, the goal is to have the seed under the thatch layer before a good rain....and be sure to seed above the recommended rate.
 
We have done it multiple ways with success but normally we spray then as the standing vegetation starts to die sow then mow. Try to time before a rain.

Some will sow then spray and just let the thatch lay down naturally...or mow it after it starts to turn.

Then if your vegetation is real tall...sow, mow then spray shorter vegetation thats closer to ground.

Whichever order you choose, the goal is to have the seed under the thatch layer before a good rain....and be sure to seed above the recommended rate.
I broadcast seed, mow, then spray. I see some spray first, wait for the standing plants to die, then seed and mow. The major problem with that is IF the standing plants are tall/thick, the spray doesn't get down to ground-hugging weeds/grasses. On the flip side, if you broadcast, mow, and then spray, the thatch can cover weeds/grasses and they don't get sprayed. However, I've not found that to be too much of a problem. I get a very good kill even though there is thatch on the ground.

And as DoubleRidge pointed out, if you are using this planting technique, increase the seeding rate by 50% over recommended (recommended is usually for drilled seed, which has a much higher germination rate than broadcast seed).
 
Well, I got all my plots seeded, mowed, and sprayed over the last couple of days. Only problem was, just as I finished spraying my last plot, the engine on my ATV gave up the ghost. o_O
That's the same ATV that survived the train incident, right? If so that thing deserves to be in a museum somewhere!
 
That's the same ATV that survived the train incident, right? If so that thing deserves to be in a museum somewhere!
Yup, a 2001 model. It's been hit by a train, rolled over more than 20 times, been sunk in creeks, broken through the ice of a pond, sunk in swamps, and had trees fall on it. Days existed where I put more than 80 miles of hard offroad work on it. Crazy thing is, it was still ticking along strong until the engine just froze up.

I wonder how hard it's going to be to find a replacement engine for an ATV that old?
 
Yup, a 2001 model. It's been hit by a train, rolled over more than 20 times, been sunk in creeks, broken through the ice of a pond, sunk in swamps, and had trees fall on it. Days existed where I put more than 80 miles of hard offroad work on it. Crazy thing is, it was still ticking along strong until the engine just froze up.

I wonder how hard it's going to be to find a replacement engine for an ATV that old?
I have 3, 2005 350's, and they take a licking, awesome machines
 
Well, I got all my plots seeded, mowed, and sprayed over the last couple of days. Only problem was, just as I finished spraying my last plot, the engine on my ATV gave up the ghost. o_O
What kind of herbicide are you using and where did you get it from, I also have a clover food plot that I didn't want to kill with the wrong spray. Also have a farm in Humphreys County.
 
What kind of herbicide are you using and where did you get it from, I also have a clover food plot that I didn't want to kill with the wrong spray. Also have a farm in Humphreys County.
I was killing everything, so I used glysophate. However, once the plants get up, I'll go back over the plot with Clethodim to kill the grasses that will inevitably germinate and take over. I really don't have too much problem with leafy weeds, just grasses (foxtail and fescue).
 
I was killing everything, so I used glysophate. However, once the plants get up, I'll go back over the plot with Clethodim to kill the grasses that will inevitably germinate and take over. I really don't have too much problem with leafy weeds, just grasses (foxtail and fescue).
Thanks, does the co op in Waverly or Dickson carry the Clethodim?
 
What kind of herbicide are you using and where did you get it from, I also have a clover food plot that I didn't want to kill with the wrong spray. Also have a farm in Humphreys County.
Clethodim and Butyrac. Mostly Clethodim, but spraying too far into summer could be bad. Depending on the weeds. We are thinking a light dose of Clethodim in the next 2 weeks depending on weather/temps and see what happens. This fall, adding more clover to it and spraying with both once the rains come
 
Clethodim and Butyrac. Mostly Clethodim, but spraying too far into summer could be bad. Depending on the weeds. We are thinking a light dose of Clethodim in the next 2 weeks depending on weather/temps and see what happens. This fall, adding more clover to it and spraying with both once the rains come
I hit my clover with cleth 10 days ago , looks great. I almost want to mow high just to get rid of the dead tops of the grass. My grass got knee high bc of flat tire , rain, then worried about fawns.
 

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