Planting clover in garden

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Last year I met a older gentleman at coop who was buying clover seeds. I asked if it was for good plot, and he said no for his garden. He plants the clover after his garden is done to help put nitrogen in it. Anyone ever heard of this?


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I read about this the other day, I can see it working well. It should act as somewhat of a weed preventer as well. The article I was reading said to just till the clover back into the soil and it will break down in the soil and act as a compost. Legumes (such as clover) are a natural Nitrogen producer, most garden type plants are Nitrogen consumers. But, depending on where your levels are, the clover may put too much N or not enough N back in the soil. There are people on this board that are WAY more qualified to answer this, just my .02¢.
 
lol thats what mick thompson and i have been talking about in our threads. you must not have read them.

anywho yes clover is a good cover crop, and to get the N benefits the seed need to be annoculated with the correct bacteria.(there are different types for different types of legumes). i may add some crimson to my cover seed mix this year like Mick and for sure mixing it with barley, and maybe winter peas. winter oats would also be a good cover in this area and the deer like it too. ive been using oats and 7 tops for years but am looking at barley this year because of the root penetration during winter crop for hard soils. it also produces "green manure" tonnage and tillage for soil building.

a garden should never be left bare as it increases weed seed germination inthe spring, erosion, etc. if no cover crops are planted then a thick layer of wheat straw or hay mulch can be used. just make sure you get first cutting hay or you will have a lot of weed seeds mixed in, or even better hay that has been left sitting out for a couple of years as the weed seeds have already sprouted and rotted.

as widowmaker said clover can put too much N back into the soil if planted alone depending on how much N fertilizer you used and how much uptake by the garden vegetables. thats the beauty of mixing with grass grain like oats, barley, etc. they grow quick, pulling excess N out of the soil and are winter killed and the biomass left will decompose quickly in the spring. the clover will continue to grow and when it is killed off in the spring the N it produces is readily used by garden vegetables. by doing this you will use less commercial N fertilizers. oats also scavenge excess P and P as well.
 
I put clover and radishes in my garden. Clover for the nitrogen and radishes for
Loosing the soil and to provide nutrients in the soil
 
spoon":guuuzyjj said:
I put clover and radishes in my garden. Clover for the nitrogen and radishes for
Loosing the soil and to provide nutrients in the soil

yeah i was gonna plant daikon radishes this year but mick brought up a good point about not being able to plant them where cabbage and broccoli will be planted because of pests so i went with barley. winter barley roots will reach 6.5 feet into the soil supposedly.
 
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I put mine down on the 16th. Just sowed it straight on top of the soil.I'll do the same with wheat and turnips to fill in the gaps next month. We've finally been getting rain and there are tiny sprouts of clover everywhere. And I won't be tilling mine under. It will melt right into the soil. A cool season grain will take up some of that excess N. These grasses are fiber-heavy, and act as slow release organic matter in the soil. No need to bury good organic matter and nutrients 6" deep by tilling either. You won't be able to find any corn residue in my garden by March- the worms and soil microbes will have it totally incorporated over the winter, and all the nutrients will be stored right in the root zone. Diverse mixes (grass, legumes, and brassicas) can help prevent diseases and pests from building up too.
 

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