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<blockquote data-quote="TheLBLman" data-source="post: 5067065" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>I fully understand your desire to kill a turkey with your old 16 ga.</p><p>I've done that with (at least) three different 16 ga guns (just not lately).</p><p>I suspect your current load should be limited to about 30 yds, but on called-in birds, you may already be killing them regularly well under that.</p><p></p><p>I killed, I believe 2 turkeys, with 16ga #7 1/2 high brass, and the others with the same #6 squirrel (possibly waterfowl loads) I simply had. This was before steel shot was required for waterfowl. I used the #7 1/2 in the more open chokes.</p><p></p><p>Based on the current situation, here's my thoughts:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">1) </span></strong> Best solution is to either buy some #9 TSS loads, and/or have someone handload you some.</p><p>They currently seem to be in stock at Apex</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://apexmunition.com/product/pt-16-16-ga-2-3-4-1-5-8oz-5-shells/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>These particular loads have a payload of 1 5/8 oz, and would likely immediately turn your 16 ga gun into a 40-plus yard turkey killer (very likely you may get acceptable patterns at 45 yds). This is with doing nothing else but going with those loads. Be sure to go with the #9 size shot, or if hand-loaded, #9.5 or #10 would be even better!</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">2) </span></strong> Just get you some high-velocity #7 1/2 lead loads (with 1 1/8 oz payload).</p><p>Ideally, copper or nickel-plated pellets. Not that you shouldn't be doing this anyway, imo, but limiting yourself to head/high neck shots, this should make your 16 ga a fairly solid 30-35-yd turkey killer (without any other changes). </p><p></p><p>Basing this on what I'm seeing with your #6 load, which may need further testing with a larger target. What you did does not show your center POI and full pattern.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind the #7 1/2 lead pellets are quickly losing their already marginal "energy" and penetration abilities beyond 30-35 yds (very unlike the TSS pellets). A turkey's head is somewhat akin to a hard rubber ball, so imagine how far "bird" shot will penetrate into a hard rubber ball at 35 yds. Not much, but enough to kill turkeys at 35 yds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLBLman, post: 5067065, member: 1409"] I fully understand your desire to kill a turkey with your old 16 ga. I've done that with (at least) three different 16 ga guns (just not lately). I suspect your current load should be limited to about 30 yds, but on called-in birds, you may already be killing them regularly well under that. I killed, I believe 2 turkeys, with 16ga #7 1/2 high brass, and the others with the same #6 squirrel (possibly waterfowl loads) I simply had. This was before steel shot was required for waterfowl. I used the #7 1/2 in the more open chokes. Based on the current situation, here's my thoughts: [B][SIZE=5]1) [/SIZE][/B] Best solution is to either buy some #9 TSS loads, and/or have someone handload you some. They currently seem to be in stock at Apex [URL unfurl="true"]https://apexmunition.com/product/pt-16-16-ga-2-3-4-1-5-8oz-5-shells/[/URL] These particular loads have a payload of 1 5/8 oz, and would likely immediately turn your 16 ga gun into a 40-plus yard turkey killer (very likely you may get acceptable patterns at 45 yds). This is with doing nothing else but going with those loads. Be sure to go with the #9 size shot, or if hand-loaded, #9.5 or #10 would be even better! [B][SIZE=5]2) [/SIZE][/B] Just get you some high-velocity #7 1/2 lead loads (with 1 1/8 oz payload). Ideally, copper or nickel-plated pellets. Not that you shouldn't be doing this anyway, imo, but limiting yourself to head/high neck shots, this should make your 16 ga a fairly solid 30-35-yd turkey killer (without any other changes). Basing this on what I'm seeing with your #6 load, which may need further testing with a larger target. What you did does not show your center POI and full pattern. Keep in mind the #7 1/2 lead pellets are quickly losing their already marginal "energy" and penetration abilities beyond 30-35 yds (very unlike the TSS pellets). A turkey's head is somewhat akin to a hard rubber ball, so imagine how far "bird" shot will penetrate into a hard rubber ball at 35 yds. Not much, but enough to kill turkeys at 35 yds. [/QUOTE]
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