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PA buck restriction history with Gary Alt on Huntr podcast
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<blockquote data-quote="CliffordN" data-source="post: 5814961" data-attributes="member: 22600"><p>I lived in PA when this was all happening. And I saw, first hand, the damaged forests. This was not, primarily, about improving deer hunting. It was an emergency effort to save habitat and also avoid a huge population crash. Hunters there were content to see large numbers of deer, with few bucks. ( I had seen the same thing in the 70s along the MS river, when no one would shoot does) And, I remember folks that were proud to shoot spikes with one inch antlers, saying "I got my buck!" I had moved up there from LA and had a hard time believing that anyone could be that happy to shoot a deer like that, but soon realized there were very few racked bucks to be had. It was unreal to walk through the woods and see that browse line just about head high, everywhere I went. I tried to discuss the positive side of what he was proposing with guys at work, and a few times I was sure they were about to jump me, because I was an outsider who was threatening their traditional deer camp experience. But, the few of them that traveled down to MS with me at the end of each year, and saw a different side of deer hunting, with nice bucks even on public land, came back with a different attitude. Antler restrictions were not popular, and killing does was considered unsportsmanlike for some time. I lived in Chester county, the Special Regulations area, and had access to some great private property, owned by folks who wanted the deer herd drastically reduced, because they were eating up thousands of dollars of landscaping as fast as it was put in their yards. We could get lots of doe tags, and I was killing lots of deer, but quietly... Interesting times, for sure... When I moved away, years later, the tide was slowly turning. But it was really decades before the real change took place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CliffordN, post: 5814961, member: 22600"] I lived in PA when this was all happening. And I saw, first hand, the damaged forests. This was not, primarily, about improving deer hunting. It was an emergency effort to save habitat and also avoid a huge population crash. Hunters there were content to see large numbers of deer, with few bucks. ( I had seen the same thing in the 70s along the MS river, when no one would shoot does) And, I remember folks that were proud to shoot spikes with one inch antlers, saying "I got my buck!" I had moved up there from LA and had a hard time believing that anyone could be that happy to shoot a deer like that, but soon realized there were very few racked bucks to be had. It was unreal to walk through the woods and see that browse line just about head high, everywhere I went. I tried to discuss the positive side of what he was proposing with guys at work, and a few times I was sure they were about to jump me, because I was an outsider who was threatening their traditional deer camp experience. But, the few of them that traveled down to MS with me at the end of each year, and saw a different side of deer hunting, with nice bucks even on public land, came back with a different attitude. Antler restrictions were not popular, and killing does was considered unsportsmanlike for some time. I lived in Chester county, the Special Regulations area, and had access to some great private property, owned by folks who wanted the deer herd drastically reduced, because they were eating up thousands of dollars of landscaping as fast as it was put in their yards. We could get lots of doe tags, and I was killing lots of deer, but quietly... Interesting times, for sure... When I moved away, years later, the tide was slowly turning. But it was really decades before the real change took place. [/QUOTE]
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