Old cull buck

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Almartin

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I really debated on whether to pull the trigger on this one. I saw a really nice 8 later in the day. Just watched him follow a doe out of sight.
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I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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Coldfusion":2ackyxmf said:
I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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exactly what I have planned
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Almartin":zp3iu4sa said:
Coldfusion":zp3iu4sa said:
I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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exactly what I have planned
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Very cool wall

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Thanks for positive comments on my wall, my wife's idea so I can't take credit for that. She even got the barn wood. I'll check the teeth when I get the head back for age.
 
Post up the jaw bone and we'll tell you how old it is....shoulders look undeveloped so based on that pic I would say 2yo.
 
Coldfusion":2293v0el said:
I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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unless you can kill the does that carry those genes also, not helping get rid of the dna.

congrats on a nice buck.
 
Headhunter":gaosk6qe said:
Coldfusion":gaosk6qe said:
I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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unless you can kill the does that carry those genes also, not helping get rid of the dna.

Yeah studies have shown that the doe is the parent that passes on recognizable antler characteristics rather than the buck every time. Fawns from a given buck get none of his antler traits.
 
That's an awesome buck! Love the rack! I love goofy racked deer just as much as if it's a giant typical!
 
If you're proud of him and he made you happy, huge congrats. That's what it's all about.

If you just killed him as a "cull" in an effort to rid the world of his genetics, I'm afraid you wasted a buck tag and missed an opportunity at the 8 point you saw later.
 
Hunter 257W":1hambkcn said:
Headhunter":1hambkcn said:
Coldfusion":1hambkcn said:
I think you Made a good choice. You want his dna gone. Cool euro mount right there though

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unless you can kill the does that carry those genes also, not helping get rid of the dna.

Yeah studies have shown that the doe is the parent that passes on recognizable antler characteristics rather than the buck every time. Fawns from a given buck get none of his antler traits.
I didnt know this. Thanks for the info

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Killing your "cull" buck isn't gonna help you out with the bad antler characteristics. I'm pretty sure I've read that the does DNA is what determines a bucks antler characteristics. I don't believe in a cull buck myself. Congrats on your kill though!!
 
Cull bucks def exist, not saying this is one of them as he doesnt appear to be mature, but a fully mature buck with a rack like this deer has would def be a cull in my eyes! I may not burn a tag on him but he would be a cull.
 
I don't believe that him killing that buck won't help his genetics... bucks have more offspring than does therefore killing him keeps his genes from getting as widespread. Bucks have doe babies also so his genes are passed to them. This is a false statement. Basic genetics tells you half your genetic make up comes from mom and half from dad... there is no way that the doe determines the fawns antler growth. It's a bell curve when u breed animals. I raise reg. Angus cattle and genetics and genomics are a big deal. If u breed a top end buck to a top end doe, the chances of a bad buck fawn are slim. But if u breed a bad buck to a good genetic doe, the fawn will either be right in the middle or could take more after mom or dad depending on how things work out. I'd have to see a lot of scientific evidence to change my opinion about that. If that's the case, why do deer breeders use their best genetic bucks on their does and why do they use artificial insemination... It's a combo. U can make a stud buck with a good doe and a bad buck but the chances are he will fall in the middle. Some of my cows pass their genes stronger to their offspring when I genetically test them with DNA testing. Cows and deer would be the same. Some does may be more dominant over a buck with their genes but it's gonna be 50 50 on their genetic make up no matter what. Now some people think the doe doesn't have any affect. That's false. That's why does have pedigrees in deer farming just like bucks do. U take the best does and best bucks to make the best offspring. Although some may come out on the worst side of the genetics from mom and dad and may not be as good as either one. Some may be better. That's why we genetically test all our cows and use the best of the best for embryo transfer in our herd. But not all calves get the best traits and their genomic ratios can come out worse than mom and dad. I just don't see the doe only affecting the antler growth... not at all. U did a great job shooting the cull buck. He's gonna produce way more offspring than 1 doe will. And his offspring will pass on the same genes whether they're does or bucks... as far as the age of the buck id need to see some teeth to determine if he is a cull but if u dont like his genes getting passed around then take him out then your future does and bucks won't have as good a chance of having this odd rack
 

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