I got a pic of a good one while he was still in velvet back in early August. He showed up again in mid September. My neighbor sent me a picture earlier this week, both deer have some trash on them but definitely not the same deer. Our farms join and he lets me hunt on his side and we return the favor and let him on our side. I'll be out there Saturday morning. This is in the hills of N Arkansas. The two cameras are about 200 yards apart.