New Cameras for 2011 Leupold has two

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Here is a link to some cameras that where at the ATA show. Looks like Leupold is getting in the market.

http://qdmworks.wordpress.com/2011/01/1 ... l-cameras/

 

[TheLBLman]

I'm glad to see this, especially from Leupold.

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

Noted that one of the Leupold models is advertised as a 10mp cam. To my knowledge, no one else is currently offering anything above an interpolated 8mp. I'll assume Leupold's 10mp is also "interpolated", but sounds like they've upped the ante.

Leupold was also innovative in having multiple choices on the triggering area. Homebrews have allowed us to have either a long, narrow triggering area; or, a wide, but shorter-range triggering area. Leupold's cam offers the ability to set for either wide or long or both simultaneously, as your choice in the field for any particular set-up. That's going to be a useful feature.

 

[Hillbilly Hunter]

I hope thier cameras are quality like thier scopes are.

 

[Andy S.]

I too hope they are good reliable cameras, we need more of those these days. As with all other things, only time will tell! Wes, I figured this excerpt alone would be enough to scare you away "One of the unique features is the hand-held, plug-in RCX controller/viewer for programming the camera and viewing images ".... :grin:

 

[primos32]

Something I will be looking into. Hopefully they are good cameras!

 

[BSK]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

 

[backstraps]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

X2
Sad thing is, this will most likely be another reputable company that may get smeared with less than normal quality products. Lets hope not. When I started seeing the cheap Leupold scopes at Walmart, sort of figured wouldnt be long until they started using their good name to pawn off cheap products on consumers too. But agin, hopefully they will be great products!

 

[cecil30-30]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

X2
Sad thing is, this will most likely be another reputable company that may get smeared with less than normal quality products. Lets hope not. When I started seeing the cheap Leupold scopes at Walmart, sort of figured wouldnt be long until they started using their good name to pawn off cheap products on consumers too. But agin, hopefully they will be great products!

Do you think the Leupold scopes sold at walmart are of less quality than the ones that bass pro or cabelas sells?

 

[TheLBLman]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

That's why so many fail right out of the box!

Too bad the unions and gov regulations have caused so much of our manufacturing to leave the U.S. I bet if Leupold made its cams in Oregon the quality control would be top-notch.

 

[TheLBLman]

Wes, I figured this excerpt alone would be enough to scare you away "One of the unique features is the hand-held, plug-in RCX controller/viewer for programming the camera and viewing images ".... :grin:

You can bet I'll be very S-L-O-W to get one, way after Chasingame finishes their testing. The remote "might" be OK if it's made to use regular replaceable batteries such as AAA. Where Uway really screwed up imo was using non-replaceable batteries in their remotes, then having very poor quality control on both their cams and their non-replaceable batteries in those remotes.

 

[BSK]

I haven't looked into it, but I'll almost guarantee Leupold is probably just puting their name on one of the current versions of Chinese camera.

 

[DWM]

I haven't looked into it, but I'll almost guarantee Leupold is probably just puting their name on one of the current versions of Chinese camera.

I will say you are probably right. Saw where it said plug in remote and there is another cam out with this feature. They can take a camera that is not in the main stream market , put their name on it and most will think it is their product. What I mean by main stream market is Bass Pro, Cabela's, Walmart, etc, etc. If a brand is not sold in these store many will never know about them. Go ask the average hunter if they ever heard of Uway or Scoutguard, most haven't unless they are on web sites like this.

 

[Andy S.]

Go ask the average hunter if they ever heard of Uway or Scoutguard, most haven't unless they are on web sites like this.

Very true

 

[BSK]

They can take a camera that is not in the main stream market , put their name on it and most will think it is their product. What I mean by main stream market is Bass Pro, Cabela's, Walmart, etc, etc. If a brand is not sold in these store many will never know about them. Go ask the average hunter if they ever heard of Uway or Scoutguard, most haven't unless they are on web sites like this.

Over the last year, I've received a real education on how most of the "mainstream" cameras came about. Almost without exception, none of the sellers actually make their cameras. They all buy them from the Chinese market, and simply pay to have their name put on the camera.

Ever notice how many of the cameras on the market look/function very similarly? That's because they are all based on the same original technology. Unfortunately, copywrite laws are little enforced in China these days. It is extremely easy (and I believe actually encouraged) to steal technology there. One company starts producing a camera they engineered and then one of the engineers simply walks away with that technology and starts his own company manufacturering almost the identical product (at least the internal components are the same). Then another engineer walks away with the technology from that new company and starts his own company. That's how most of the camera manufacturing has developed there--theft of intellectual property, and the government just looks the other way (or actually encourages the practice). I'm not exagerating when I say you can contact the company that makes a "name brand" camera and tell them you want a thousand of those cameras with your name on them. They will gladly make and sell you those cameras with your name on them for sale in the U.S. As soon as a "new" name brand camera shows up on the U.S. market, you can find the very same camera for sale on Ebay with "Jo Shmoe's" name on it. This activity is illegal in U.S. manufacturing, but standard practice in China.

Every notice just how similar the ScoutGuard, Covert and Bushnell cameras are? It's called "theft of intellectual property."

 

[megalomaniac]

Even closer are scoutguard and 'keepguard' cameras

 

[BSK]

Even closer are scoutguard and 'keepguard' cameras

I wish I could tell all of what I know about these camera companies...

 

[DWM]

BSK, That is why I try to avoid those China products but these American companies don't give us much of a choice. If a practice is illegal in this country they our country should make it illegal to import products that use those practices. It might bring more of our jobs back and lighten the load on our landfills. We have high enviromental impact standards in this country that drive the cost of production up then we give tax breaks to companies for importing products from countries with low standards. I'm not saying we need to lower our standards just don't allow products in from places that don't match ours but that is another topic that will get me all upset.

 

[Hillbilly Hunter]

I haven't looked into it, but I'll almost guarantee Leupold is probably just puting their name on one of the current versions of Chinese camera.

you may be right, but I hope not. They have prided theirselves in the past of being 100 percent American made.

 

[BSK]

BSK, That is why I try to avoid those China products but these American companies don't give us much of a choice. If a practice is illegal in this country they our country should make it illegal to import products that use those practices. It might bring more of our jobs back and lighten the load on our landfills. We have high enviromental impact standards in this country that drive the cost of production up then we give tax breaks to companies for importing products from countries with low standards. I'm not saying we need to lower our standards just don't allow products in from places that don't match ours but that is another topic that will get me all upset.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[PickettSFHunter]

No reason to get rumors started before we even know where these cams are being made. Unless your a pro staffer for other camera company(ies) :whistle: We all know this is how the rumors start.

 

[J.M.A.N.]

I haven't looked into it, but I'll almost guarantee Leupold is probably just puting their name on one of the current versions of Chinese camera.

X2

 

[Andy S.]

You can see the new Leupold camera, controller and a brief description at the link below. Once the web page loads, scroll down and it is on the fourth (4th) video. The camera summary starts at the 9:20 mark. http://www.bhpoutfitters.com/ata2011.htm

 

[backstraps]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

X2
Sad thing is, this will most likely be another reputable company that may get smeared with less than normal quality products. Lets hope not. When I started seeing the cheap Leupold scopes at Walmart, sort of figured wouldnt be long until they started using their good name to pawn off cheap products on consumers too. But agin, hopefully they will be great products!

Do you think the Leupold scopes sold at walmart are of less quality than the ones that bass pro or cabelas sells?

Hello Cecil. I never made mention of Wally scopes being of less quality than the same scope sold at larger Outdoor retailers.

Just IMO, I hope if Leupold puts their name on the new RCX-2 that is will be quality. BUT at 289-339.00 price range I doubt it will be much more than a Chinese or Japanese camera. If the camera says it is made in the USA, I would research the internals and make sure it simply isnt assembled in USA and made overseas... just my thoughts

 

[BSK]

No reason to get rumors started before we even know where these cams are being made. Unless your a pro staffer for other camera company(ies) :whistle: We all know this is how the rumors start.

Not a single Chinese company is trully "innocent" in all these technology wars. NOT A SINGLE ONE. And that includes Uway. I'm a "pro Staffer" for them only in the sense I test new designs for them. I don't get anything for that except the chance to try new technology (test their "beta version" cameras). I still have to buy my production Uway cameras at the same price as anyone else. I am not "paid" to be on their Pro Staff, or given free merchandise.

 

[TheLBLman]

Just IMO, I hope if Leupold puts their name on the new RCX-2 that is will be quality.

While I'd LIKE to think that, I made that similar erroneous assumption when I purchased a Bushnell Trophy cam this past October. Really expected better from Bushnell, especially considering how much time they had "to work the bugs out" and solve any prior problems with this particular cam. Wasn't like it had "just come out" and I had a beta version for field testing. Rather, mine was purchased at Bass Pro Oct. 2010, and failed right out of the box. Makes me not to want anything now with a Bushnell logo.

IMO, if Leupold does like Bushnell has done with their trail cams, it could seriously hurt their scope sales. Will just wait and see, and will not be among the first suckers to go try out one of the new Leupolds.

 

[BSK]

Just IMO, I hope if Leupold puts their name on the new RCX-2 that is will be quality.

While I'd LIKE to think that, I made that similar erroneous assumption when I purchased a Bushnell Trophy cam this past October. Really expected better from Bushnell, especially considering how much time they had "to work the bugs out" and solve any prior problems with this particular cam. Wasn't like it had "just come out" and I had a beta version for field testing. Rather, mine was purchased at Bass Pro Oct. 2010, and failed right out of the box. Makes me not to want anything now with a Bushnell logo.

IMO, if Leupold does like Bushnell has done with their trail cams, it could seriously hurt their scope sales. Will just wait and see, and will not be among the first suckers to go try out one of the new Leupolds.

Bushnell does not make their trail-cams. They simply pay to have their name put on another of the Chinese "clone" cameras, all of which are based on the same original technology (HCO/Covert/Bushnell).

 

[TheLBLman]

Bushnell does not make their trail-cams. They simply pay to have their name put on another of the Chinese "clone" cameras, all of which are based on the same original technology (HCO/Covert/Bushnell).

But Bushnell is "playing" off their reputation of offering reasonably good optical products at reasonable prices relative to their quality.

When Bushnell CHOSE to put their good name on a piece of junk camera, their name is no longer "good" by me. Really hope Leupold doesn't make this same mistake, as I do currently plan to buy more Leupold scopes in the future. Meanwhile, I wouldn't consider anything else with the Bushnell name on it.

Apparently, many others have had similar experiences with their Bushnell trail cams:
http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthr ... w=1#UNREAD

 

[Adamjcksn]

Competition is what makes our free enterprise system sizzle.
It has been so much of what has made America great and lead the world in innovation.

With our capitalist system, we keep inventing better things at progressively lower prices.

The problem is, almost all Trail-cams are being made in China with Chinese engineering.

X2
Sad thing is, this will most likely be another reputable company that may get smeared with less than normal quality products. Lets hope not. When I started seeing the cheap Leupold scopes at Walmart, sort of figured wouldnt be long until they started using their good name to pawn off cheap products on consumers too. But agin, hopefully they will be great products!

Do you think the Leupold scopes sold at walmart are of less quality than the ones that bass pro or cabelas sells?

Hello Cecil. I never made mention of Wally scopes being of less quality than the same scope sold at larger Outdoor retailers.

Just IMO, I hope if Leupold puts their name on the new RCX-2 that is will be quality. BUT at 289-339.00 price range I doubt it will be much more than a Chinese or Japanese camera. If the camera says it is made in the USA, I would research the internals and make sure it simply isnt assembled in USA and made overseas... just my thoughts

I'm sure it will be another chinese made camera. It sure would be nice to have a USA made camera on the market that you didn't have to take out a small loan to afford a couple of them.

 

[DWM]

From what I am finding out it looks like the camera and controller will be sold separately. If it is like what I am seeing then you must buy one controller that will operate several cameras. You can not program your settings without it. So if they sell the camera for $200 or $250 which makes camera not to bad of a price then you buy the controller for another $150. That makes the first one expensive at either $350 or $400 but still not bad if it is American made black flash. Then all you have to do is add more cameras at the lower price of the camera only. That may actually work out good for people using multiple cameras. This may be a similar design to some China cams but not sure they were sold as seperate units. We will have to wait and see if this is the case.

 

[TheLBLman]

From what I am finding out it looks like the camera and controller will be sold separately. If it is like what I am seeing then you must buy one controller that will operate several cameras. You can not program your settings without it.

Sounds almost exactly what I first heard about the Uway NT50 series. In their initial marketing, Uway was promoting a "twin pack" of their cams, with a single remote controller that could operate both cams, and allow one to purchase additional cams (without need for more than one controller to operate all).

For sure, you can not program a Uway without a WORKING controller, the Achilles' heel of these cams. Would be a big improvement if Leupold simply had the foresight to see that their new "controllers" were using replaceable batteries, such as a couple common AAA's (unlike the Uway remotes, which die a quick death when their non-replaceable batteries die).