need help!

[Nsghunter]

I bought a used bow in 2013 I think, it's a PSE rogue 28" 50-70# for $175. I had never shot a bow and fired it a few times before I bought it, I liked it and was able to hit the target(maybe begginers luck). I am a pretty bad shot with it honestly, on average I get 4" groups at ~35 yards, 30% of the time, tight groups 1" 20%, 2" 20% THEN some crazy groups the last 30%(sometimes even off the target!). To me this isn't acceptable to hunt with. I am not even happy with 4" groups really. I don't know if I use the right form or is the bow is off. I've never shot one before this one and since I bouht from an individual I don't have the support of a trained proffesional to ensure I'm doing it right.

I don't need smaller than three inch groups but more than three and i'm afraid would equal non-lethal shots. If I can't be confident that I will make kill shots I wouldn't want to hunt.With my rifle I would snarl at larger than 2" groups.

I have bad astigmitism wich makes my vision kinda fuzzy at all distances and I sometimes struggle to see my sight because of the shape of my glasses. I have shot probalby 50 arrows with an old wore out set and old wore out strings. I went to sportman's choice in Halls Knoxville and bought new arrows and string $250! I though that maybe the new strings/arrows would help but my accuracy seems that it is actually worse. Iadjusted my sight and it's getting better but still isn't accurate and consistent. I use a one pin sight and I'm sure that doesn't help.


The problem/question. I have almost $450 in a USED bow that I can't effectively kill with ( I only bought it to hunt with). I could but a better sight 100-150 bucks. I have thought about buying an x-bow to get around my vision and glasses. I could go to a dealer and by a new bow built for me.

I am open to all suggestions please help.

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

If I may...

First thing you need to rule out

1. Is it the Bow?
2. Or is it the shooter?

Best way I have figured out to determine this is to have someone that shoots regually and consistantly shoot your bow.

If that person is able to group reasonably well with the bow then its the shooters form that needs to be address.

Im not a expert or a coach but consistant form is the key to consistant shooting.

Find a consistant anchor point on your face to draw the bow back each and every time. Learn to shoot with a relaxed grip on the bow.

Watch some videos on Youtube on Archery form and Target panic. Target Panic is harder to break than learning proper form IMHO. Once I got past Target Panic I was able to move up to the next level of archery shooting.

Here is a starting point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi3j5M8xBDc

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

If your having vision problems there are several remidies.

Bifocals helped me. I had to really struggle at first to work them out with the sight and the target but I eventually got there.

They make scopes for Bows so you might check that out as a option.

Crossbows are cool and all. But follow up shots with them are much noisier and much slower in the event a follow up shot is needed on a deer. When I hunted with a crossbow I almost never got a second shot off on my deer.

Plus they are much harder to chocolate chip cookie than just pulling back a compound bow is .
For some shooters crossbows might be the answer. But until I can't pull back a 50-60 lb pull and consistantly hit with it. I am not going back to a cross bow.

 

[Nsghunter]

Thanks for the input, I have tried to get a consitent anchor point on my face but I can't seem to find a three point anchor. I would like to keep this bow, and I get erred at the idea that this has gotten the best of me for so long. I am a smidge arrogant but I come across very few things that I want to do that I can't figure out how to do(not perfect). I only want to be able to ethically harvest a deer during bow season. If I had time a few tourneys would be fun but harvest animals is why I bought it. I missed a rabbit at 20 yards buy his tail fuzz and hit so close to a skunk I skinned his hind legg and he sprayed lol. but at the target I am lacking consitency. I feel like I don't understand my weapon. I don't like that.

 

[fasteddie]

Best thing to do is get the bow properly tuned. Make sure that it's shooting bullet holes (paper tuned). Then you may consider having someone shoot it and show you what the bow can do like pills bury said, basically to get your confidence up. From there it's is all shooter. Go to a local range or club and see if you can find aomeone to show you some new form and show you what, or if you are doing something wrong. Very well could be that the bow was thrown together poorly.


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[Nsghunter]

Edie, I paid the shop to paper tune it but something is off, it may be me. The more I use it the more my lips raise up. I have even consider decreasing my draw weight to get an easier shot. I don't feel strained to pull but after 10 or so shots it is harder to hold form than after the first fires.

 

[fasteddie]

I would say decrease the draw weight then. Too much draw weight making you tired can create bad habits such as target panic. I would say decrease the draw weight until you can shoot 40-50 shots before you get tired and steadily increase draw weight a turn a month or so until you are at the weight you want and are comfortable with it.


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[WRbowhunter]

I would do as you recommended by reducing the draw weight then I would shoot with someone that knows what they are doing. There could be 10 different things occurring causing your issues. And I bet they could all be corrected rather easily by someone with some shooting experience. Confidence in your equipment and yourself goes a long way in shooting well. Better to find help then pick up bad habits and shooting form. Good luck