My pattern (pics)

[catman529]

Thanks again TurkeyBurd for taking me out to a spot where I could shoot. Bruised up my shoulder with a few of the Win. Supreme 3" #5 shot. Shots were around 20 yards.

First was low left

Still low and left, but he's dead

A little left still...

So I got to aim a hair to the right of his head... what do you all say for this pattern at 20 yards? Looks pretty tight, the choke is xx-full not sure what choke it is but fits my NEF and it's gonna be my turkey killer this spring.

 

[rem270]

cool

 

[buckhorn40]

:cool:

 

[Brad C.]

And what did shooting at 20yds prove?

I guess I don't see what was gained from it. Wasted shells is all I see.

 

[catman529]

I know I need to shoot higher and to the right of what I tend to shoot, we didn't set up any farther but I could always do that if I really want to. I'd like to take a turkey at 20 yards anyway.

 

[Grizzly Johnson]

And what did shooting at 20yds prove?

I guess I don't see what was gained from it. Wasted shells is all I see.

Easy killer.... this is a young feller just getting into turkey hunting.... not an old pro on old gobbler.... don't scare him off too soon.



Catman, you may get lucky and get one in to 20 yards.... I would go atleast 30 yards and then shoot to 40 yards to see what it does. Different chokes and loads will shoot different.... Such as the shell and choke you are shooting now shoots the way it does.... by trying something else, your POA/POI might be dead on..... if you are going to keep your shots within 40 yards, you might try #6 shot.... more pellets on target.

 

[catman529]

Burd suggested the distance, which I was OK with, and didn't bother to take it out farther, so if I get the chance I will try farther but would rather save my loads for turkey season at this point. Thanks for the suggestion for 6 shot, I may have to buy a box of that as well.

 

[Baxter83]

Looks good man!

Some people are just plain rude :/

 

[RAFI]

not trying to be like some but you need to practice more.don't say aim to the right shoot some more if you have the money and get it closer if not you are going to be mad when you finally call in that bird and miss at 30 or longer because you didn't.or call them in close and you will be fine.

 

[lung-buster]

Looks good man!

Some people are just plain rude :/

And need to keep their trap shut.

 

[Brad C.]

Not trying to be rude, but you need to back off at 40yds and see what is going on. And you also need to shoot a way bigger piece of paper or cardboard. That way you know what is going on with your load and choke. 20yds really doesn't prove much.

 

[spitndrum]

:cool:

 

[RUGER]

Looks like you are getting there. :D

You might try another shell and your point of impact might move a little.

Good luck !

 

[RUGER]

Oh and there is nothing wrong with wanting to get a turkey within 20 yards.

 

[catman529]

Thanks all, and yeah I can probably trust burd's wisdom since he's killed 300, I'd like to know what my gun patterns like at 40 yards but only if I really feel like going out and using a couple more of the expensive loads.... either way I'm going to pick up a box of the #5 and #6 if I can find both, and I picked up a flyer at walmart that I can mail in to get a decent looking multi tool if I buy 2 boxes of the win. supreme. So I thought what the heck, I am already planning on using that ammo so why not buy two boxes and get a free tool, as long as they aren't going to send junk mail...

 

[AR turkey]

looks like a dead bird to me!

 

[TheLBLman]

And what did shooting at 20yds prove?

Well, it did prove how easy it would be too miss a turkey up close with a tight choked gun and bead sights. :)

In my humble opinion, it will be hard to remember where to move your aim at the moment of truth. Most shotguns, like yours, don't shoot exactly where you point them. That is why most turkey hunters that shoot tight chokes and patterns use some sort of adjustable sight or scope.

x 2.

And as we get older, most of us find the optical advantage of a scope to be better than adjustable sights.

 

[REN]

IMO it would do you good to try a few other shells and see if the POA is off on them as well or if it is in fact the ammo. I have had issues with POA in certain shells but other ammo seemed to fix the issue. I shoot just a bead and I assure you in the moment you are not going to remember to aim RIGHT....also how far are you going to aim if he is 30yds out or 10 yds at that matter. the pattern itself is not bad but you need to figure something out on the POA weather that is a different optic site or different ammo.

 

[JohnnyBond]

:cool:

 

[TheAirMan]

I had a problem with my latest gun not hitting where it was aimed. I ran out of adjustment on the sights and it was still off. I bought some new Truglo on ebay for like $18 after shipping. It fixed the problem fine. If any way possible I would get something that would get the pattern hitting where you aimed. I know people are different but it would drive me crazy having to worry about having to hold off to hit the bird.

 

[TheLBLman]

If any way possible I would get something that would get the pattern hitting where you aimed.

That's part of why I like a scope.

 

[Chaneylake]

a shotgun in the price range of a remington should shoot exactly where the shooter is looking if the gun is "properly fitted/mounted", if its not doing this I would either return the gun or trade it off

 

[TurkeyBurd]

Catman is just learning...and is a great young man.

I guess you killed a deer at 450 yds on your first hunt and you probably walked before you crawled.

Some have it...but most of us dont.

Choose your words more carefully...when talking about a young man who is very excited about getting into the outdoors...be positive towards him.

Thank you...that is all!!

Not trying to be rude, but you need to back off at 40yds and see what is going on. And you also need to shoot a way bigger piece of paper or cardboard. That way you know what is going on with your load and choke. 20yds really doesn't prove much.

 

[catman529]

Thanks all for the kind words, the rude ones, the encouragement and the criticism. I do like to hear both sides, gives me more view points which helps me learn better.

Common sense tells me I should try a few 40 yard shots if I want to be more comfortable with my accuracy, but also I could likely get a good shot on a turkey if he's within a decent range and I am careful when placing the shot. The 6 shot is another option like I said and will probably have some of that before season too.

 

[Brad C.]

I apologize for my rude comments. Newbie or not, I should know better. If I can be of any help to you, just let me know.

 

[REN]

Catman alot of people on here want to see you be success full so if money is the issue for ammo then i am sure there are a few people on here that would be willing to help you out and give you a few shells to try out. I know what the college years are like so i fully understand the money issues.

 

[Buck Assassin]

Looks like your throwing a good pattern... Just a little left! Might try some different shells, or maybe some adjustable sights??? Keep at it! You'll get her dialed in!

 

[TurkeyBurd]

Very nice of you to correct the comments.

Thank you.

Good luck this season.

I apologize for my rude comments. Newbie or not, I should know better. If I can be of any help to you, just let me know.

 

[bvoss]

Catman, its good to be able to shoot out to 40 yards just in case the bird hangs up. But it will definitely be to your benefit if you can remain patient enough to let the bird work its way under 30. I think its much better to start out as a new turkey hunter saying your going to try to get him to 20 than saying your going to try to shoot him at 60.

I know lots of folks on here are telling you otherwise, but the first three years of turkey hunting I had I used an old gun that shot to the left just a few inches. If I put the bead where it was just touching the very edge of his neck on the right side, I would center my pattern. I just said to myself, "Put it right on on the right" to remember where to hold. I could have probably killed the birds, by just holding it on them, but i wanted my patterned centered and didnt have the $ to pay for sights.

After getting a new gun a few years later, I learned as REN has said that differnt loads will have a different point of impact as well. I am sure it would be a good idea to shoot at other ranges and more loads if you can, but if not, I still think youve got a gun that will do the job. Good luck to ya.

 

[BIGORANGE]

You are off to a good start. Hang in there and enjoy Turkey season! :)