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That top one is mature. If by guess him you mean score, his score won't really do him justice at all IMO. That's a big 8 point. He may be a 130" deer. Even 130" sounds small when you look at his 19" wide frame and his long beams.

That second buck is really nice too!
 
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I doubt he is any less than 18. Might be a little bit wider. They always deceive me at first when their ear or ears are back, but he is definitely pretty wide.
 
Yep, I believe they are two different deer, the way he was facing the camera in the first pic I couldn't tell how much shorter his G3 on his left side was than the other deer.
 
Nice bucks. Maybe they are twins. That 2nd pic his frame reminds me of a mule deer for some reason when he is facing the camera
 

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