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Does anyone have information on what state is the most non resident friendly when it comes to hunting mule deer? I have been researching Colorado mainly but didn't know if that is the best state or not. Trying to plan a hunt for a couple season from now. If anyone has information that would be great.
 
Just to get the blood flowing. Here are a few desert mule deer that posed nicely for me after I had already put my tag on a coues deer. Yes, they were on public land.

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As far as experience I have always wanted to do one of those big mountain/ big wilderness hunts. I'm mainly wanting to rifle hunt public but would not be opposed to bow hunting.Rifle is my first option really because the couple friends I'm going to get to go with me wouldn't go with a bow in hand. I was planning on hiking from any accessible road and glassing most of the day or until a buck is spotted. I'm really looking for a solid average mule deer doesn't have to be a monster. I ve seen where a few guys go hunt the same units every year with over the counter tags for Colorado. However getting those priority points should yield in a better unit in any of the states mentioned. I guess it really comes down to what areas are known for carrying decent bucks and putting in for those areas and states. Thanks for the feedback.
 
Ok so I have a lot of my wife's family in Colorado around the Springs area. I have zero experience with the public land out there minus what I gather from the Internet...my goal is to plan a hunt for August 2018... is there an area some what close to the springs that offers decent hunting for mullies with archery gear without me needing a bunch of preference points?


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Poser":1z1ikb5d said:
tree_ghost":1z1ikb5d said:
Ok so I have a lot of my wife's family in Colorado around the Springs area. I have zero experience with the public land out there minus what I gather from the Internet...my goal is to plan a hunt for August 2018... is there an area some what close to the springs that offers decent hunting for mullies with archery gear without me needing a bunch of preference points?


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Should be something that fits your description. You'll need to look at the units around CO Springs and see what can be drawn with 2 PP. On the front range, you also have Whitetails. BIG Whitetails.

You'll have to forgive my ignorance but what's the front range?


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There are a lot of whitetails east of I-25. I wonder what the pressure is? Think I will go check annual statistics and see what I can find.

My BIL inherited a few hundred acres around Cope. Sold it in mid-1990's to pay off college bills. There were whitetails there at that time and while my BIL can desex a fly at 200 yards with his 222 he thinks ten deer is a lot. Need to chase down the numbers by county.
 
Most CO "whiteys" are on private ground and what units have public have high draw odds and most of the deer stick to private anyways.

OP, if you give us more details of what your looking for we might be able to point you in a better direction. NR friendly can mean a few different things.


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I guess by non resident friendly I meant has several tags for NRs and combined with several acres of public hunting ground. As stated before I would be extremely satisfied with a average or low average deer especially if I get the experience I'm looking for. A deer would just be icing on the cake at that point.
 
Montana has a rut rifle tag, Idaho has easy to obtain tags and they are turning out some serious toads. Both states have good public land access.
Colorado has good access but tags are tougher to come by. Arizona has a archery rut hunt for Muleys and Coues with easy to get tags and ample public ground.



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For guys from "back east" who want to head west to kill mule deer on the cheap there are alot of factors to consider. Here are a few from where I sit.........

transportation west.......going to drive or fly? flying advantages are of course time and sometimes money.......flying and renting a 4x4 isn't cheap either and most rentals have crappy low ply tires; driving is a about a minute a mile, not that cheap and then how do you plan to get any meat home?

where do you plan to hunt....public or private....are you capable of getting into the back country on foot? Need 4 wheelers? renting horses if that is an option? hunting public access or private land? have the necessary software in your GPS to figure out where you are and where you can be and need to be..... u might want to have a couple of C-notes in your billfold if you need to walk up to a ranch and attempt access on private ground , how do you plan to retrieve a big old stinky in a bad drainage pre-rut where the old boy hasn't rutted out and weighs 230 field dressed? Hunting late in the season where snow can sock you in?

it's funny, i was talking to a friend who is a successful guide in Montana the other day and the thing that he always laughs about is how so many guys think they need to go buy a new rifle and scope to kill a mule deer or antelope when that money could have gone into much better binocs, a GPS and good boots that are broke in. That rifle that has been killing little whitetails for years works just fine if you practice shooting it. Practice to me means putting a couple, if not 3 or 4 of boxes through the rifle at distance Boxes. Figure out your ballistics and go practice. Buy some ear protection and go shoot, take your wife, let her shoot......have some fun practicing at 250, 300, try a 350 or 400 for grins .....have fun, get some confidence, get uncomfortable and then get comfortable at distance with your gun. Practice more and then some. If need be get a good scope and get it mounted properly. I like the DNZ products for scope mounts. Makes sense to me. I would never go hunting with a rifle that I am not 100% confident in. I shoot a little old .243. Been shooting that caliber since I was a middle schooler. It works for me. I have taken 6 pt bull elk off their feet at 300 and killed antelope at ranges i won't even type here because you would think i'm BS'ing. .243's work for me. I shoot a BAR simply because i miss my first shot once in a while and a fast followup shot or shots puts me in position to kill the animal and the proven, time tested BAR suits my needs.

I think alot of hunters who have never had the opportunity to kill animals on the run miss good opportunities when working a bolt. I killed many tons of deer with a bolt Remington .243 but probably would have been better off to shoot a BAR if I could have afforded one. I have bought most of my BARS all used except one and some off the internet.

Figure out what is realistic to kill in the area you are hunting. If you are a score guy figure out what size of deer you can realistically expect to hunt in the area you are hunting. Kansas whiteys are not ND whiteys. Colorado muleys are not MT muleys. In my experience in Montana about every 25 to 30 bucks I bump there is a good shooter buck. If you want to shoot a deer go ahead and shoot one. If you want to hunt for a few days hunt a few days. Get it in your mind ahead of time what you want out of your hunt. Is it just to shoot a deer out west? Hammer one and be happy. If you want to hunt, get the area figured out, scout some and hope to slap a tag on a big boy, great. If you are willing to eat tag soup while waiting for a real bomber good luck.

Some of these questions are rather uncomfortable. A lot of guys think they need to kill a deer "out west" because they bought a license and spent a bunch of money. Maybe that will be the only trip they can pull off or want to do and that is what they want, to kill a mulde deer. Maybe in a few years they might come back and have more time to hunt for a larger deer. I just think that spending the money, putting in the time and figuring things out well ahead of time are very important. Having a good hunting partner is key too. It's of course alot cheaper to be on a 2 on 1 guided hunt than a 1 on 1. I would prefer to hunt with somebody I knew and could trust. I hate being around people I don't know with high powered rifles but that is just me. Weird but honest.

I always wish for guys headed west to have the best trip of their hunting careers. You can always get some beautiful pictures. This is a beautiful country. There is still some wild country out there and some great horns with your name on them. It's often uncomfortable to get out of your comfort zone and do what you dream about. Montana has 10,000, 000 acres of public land. You can find a deer on public land in Montana for free. I have been to many other states and had bad weather, found only teenie bucks, on and on. It's hunting not shooting. Some days you win, other days not so much.

I wouldn't have it any other way. I wish you the best.
 
Sd is a sleeper state on mule deer and some huge whitetail. U can draw for tag or buy over counter. And trust me they got some huge ones.

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tndanny":2554p3rq said:
Sd is a sleeper state on mule deer and some huge whitetail. U can draw for tag or buy over counter. And trust me they got some huge ones.

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I started accumulating points for various areas in SD last year. I turkey hunted the Black Hills a few years ago and really wanted to deer hunt it. I have never seen so many whitetail in one area as I did in the Black Hills, I'm talking numerous herds of 20+ deer. Some big elk there too, only for residents though.


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AT Hiker":1rk330jv said:
tndanny":1rk330jv said:
Sd is a sleeper state on mule deer and some huge whitetail. U can draw for tag or buy over counter. And trust me they got some huge ones.

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I started accumulating points for various areas in SD last year. I turkey hunted the Black Hills a few years ago and really wanted to deer hunt it. I have never seen so many whitetail in one area as I did in the Black Hills, I'm talking numerous herds of 20+ deer. Some big elk there too, only for residents though.


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. Don't let me forget to continue building those points this year!


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PickettSFHunter":2iie2un1 said:
Don't let me forget to continue building those points this year!


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No worries, I will keep ya posted. I believe June is when they open up the system to purchase.


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