Model 700 issues?

[Remi]

Are you using a specific graphite or something like you'd pick up at the locksmith shop?

You're the second person to suggest graphite.

I'm going to pull the bolt down in the next few hours and I'll follow up. I'll probably remove the trigger assembly and run it through the ultrasonic also.

Lighter fluid on the trigger too


I think I got my graphite at Ace. I read quite a few guys run their assembly dry.

I got some new stuff that's a dry graphite spray I run on my pistols that I like most bigly.


And if it doesn't help or you're uneasy TriggerTech makes nice stuff, lol.

 

[tacoma2002]

I do enjoy my triggertech triggers. More so than the Timneys.

So here's what I found.

Firing pin and spring were in good shape. No excess oil buildup that I could see.

I threw the trigger assembly in the ultrasonic bath with mineral spirits and it came out leaving very yellow/varnish looking coloring in the solvent.

I found the bolt stop on the safety super chewed (pics attached).

I've reassembled everything only lubing with lighter fluid.

I put the action back out to freeze and will report back in the AM.

I'm going to get a trigger assembly on the way for the fact, if nothing else, that the safety bolt stop is chewed.

 

[TiminTN]

Id be willing to bet all it needs is a good cleaning as suggested. The oil and grease from 1970 is 53 years old.

 

[rickyk280]

Id be willing to bet all it needs is a good cleaning as suggested. The oil and grease from 1970 is 53 years old.

I would be to, if no one has messed with the sear screw.

I have not owned 100's of these like you have but I have worked on 100's them in my years. Here is you another option Gentry three position safety. I have installed many of them on the older 700's that had to be on fire to un bolt. Here is a pic of one I put on mine 50yrs ago. I for one like the old triggers with a little work done to them.

 

[wcw280]

Save the headache and buy an aftermarket trigger. Very simple change. Triggertech, timney, jewel just a couple of many options. Keep the original trigger in a ziplock so you got it if you sell it or ever want it back all original.

 

[wcw280]

Winchester three position safety as mentioned above is the undisputed king of safety And functionality. IMO

 

[Plateau Hunter]

I liked the old 700s that locked the bolt when on safe…the triggers work well if not messed with and kept clean so that the connector seats properly…I am a big fan of 3 position safeties…

 

[Mattt]

Twice in this thread I have read 'luckily it was pointed in a safe direction'

 

[mr.big]

Save the headache and buy an aftermarket trigger. Very simple change. Triggertech, timney, jewel just a couple of many options. Keep the original trigger in a ziplock so you got it if you sell it or ever want it back all original.

I'm pretty sure Jewel is out of business

 

[tacoma2002]

Twice in this thread I have read 'luckily it was pointed in a safe direction'

Just stresses the point of gun safety. This was my first malfunction "AD" if you could call it that.

Either way it is NOT a fun position to be in.

 

[tacoma2002]

Update -

I disassembled the bolt completely - no oil or grime present but I ran it through the cleaner anyway.

I inspected and unpinned the trigger assembly and ran the entire assembly through the cleaner and it left a nasty brown/yellow film in the solution. The exterior appeared clean upon removal but I noted damage to the bolt stop, but should not have caused the issue that I experienced.

I lubed firing pin assembly and trigger assembly with lighter fluid only.

I reassembled and froze the entire barreled action overnight.

This morning everything functions as intended.

I assume the trigger assembly was freezing allowing the trigger to hang and not engage the sear.

I will be replacing the trigger assembly with something else this spring.

 

[wcw280]

I'm pretty sure Jewel is out of business

They made some fine triggers. I have several

 

[rickyk280]

They made some fine triggers. I have several

A friend of mine Larry Scott, Great Scott Shooters Products Cadiz, KY was a very big Jewell dealer the last time I picked one up from him a few months back he had a few 700's left. He said he didn't see anymore being built per his conversation with Jewell.

 

[mr.big]

A friend of mine Larry Scott, Great Scott Shooters Products Cadiz, KY was a very big Jewell dealer the last time I picked one up from him a few months back he had a few 700's left. He said he didn't see anymore being built per his conversation with Jewell.

Larry's been out of stock for a while now

 

[rickyk280]

Larry's been out of stock for a while now

Well maybe not completely out. He didn't have any listed on his site.

 

[mr.big]

Well maybe not completely out. He didn't have any listed on his site.

From all he has posted on accurate shooter id say he's out.

 

[rickyk280]

From all he has posted on accurate shooter id say he's out.

Yes he is now he sold the last ones he had to one builder, and that was some he didn't have listed on accurate shooter or his site.

 

[mr.big]

Yes he is now he sold the last ones he had to one builder, and that was some he didn't have listed on accurate shooter or his site.

There was a guy had 10 for sale a little while ago for 325$$ that didn't last long

 

[rickyk280]

There was a guy had 10 for sale a little while ago for 325$$ that didn't last long

I hated to see Jewel go out. I got a lot of triggers over the years from Larry, He doesn't live but 15 miles from me. I could just run over and get what I needed and visit. Did you ever shoot with Larry?

 

[mr.big]

I hated to see Jewel go out. I got a lot of triggers over the years from Larry, He doesn't live but 15 miles from me. I could just run over and get what I needed and visit. Did you ever shoot with Larry?

Yeah he shot some UBR with us,, he shot a factory 40x 308. It got where he said his health worried him being around so many people or something ,,