But, in yesterday's game the only passes he completed were to receivers standing still in the flat. Almost nothing downfield.
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I'm pretty sure he didn't call the plays.
You missed my point. He completed almost all of the flat passes elevating his completion percentage and missed almost all the downfield receivers. His percentages look ok, but in reality a good defense will shut down the flat passes and he'll be in trouble. I'm not hating on him. I want him to be the next Patrick Mahomes. But the facts are the facts.
M T Pockets 000
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There are no plans to redshirt Nico. This tells me that if/when a game is in doubt and Joe is struggling Nico will get the call.
I think the biggest problem that's not been addressed is that the wr's aren't getting very open.
bowhunterfanatic
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This is a fair point but Milton was AWFUL against Peay. Saying otherwise would be disingenuous. He missed numerous throws high or behind the receiver. The receivers did nothing to help him but that doesn't change the fact that he was awful.
All that said my biggest concern with Milton is 3rd downs in general. He's had more 3 and outs in TNs last 4 games than Hooker had in two years. I don't expect Joe to be Hendon but he's got to be much better on third down.
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I watched the Josh Heupel show this morning and the way he broke down some of the busted plays both offensively and defensively made things not look near as bad. Did Milton miss a few throws, he did, but ol Josh was way more disappointed in the receivers than he was the quarterback. Honestly without our DB slipping and falling, they don't score. We do need to be better at Florida and I think they will be. Austin P is no chump, it was 17-3 in the third last year when they played bama.
Are you kidding me?!?!? AP should be a chump every Saturday against any SEC team. They are 12-106 since 2009 and AL score was actually 34-0 last year. Al played 3 different QBs. Don't be that guy that justifies the game by saying AP is better than they are
I disagree. I used to think that living in Knoxville and reading him everyday but I came to realize he was SICK & TIRED of the shenanigans and the fans not getting their ROI from fat Phil all the way down to this past Saturday. If it wasn't for Adams having the balls to go after Fulmer that fat sack of stupidity would likely still be the coach or AD. He jumped on the JH train just like the rest of us. Seeing/hearing what was produced Saturday after all the money to coaches and now players is not acceptable. Their head and hearts were not in the game.
I have my doubts based on Saturday that they beat FL on Saturday….. hell, they barely beat them last year in Neyland.
I see no way they win in the swamp.
Adams is a LSU fanboy that has based his dubious career on trying to antagonize the Vols family to get clicks. He is the poster child of a hack.
Fulmer wasn't cut out to be an AD. But, even at that, he was better than Hamilton and Curry. I more than got my ROI from his coaching for many years. He fell off at the end. The grown up Kiffin was probably a better coach. The Kiffin the Vols got wasn't ready for that job. But, Fulmer still would have been better than the next three clowns.
I love our current coach. But, he will be lucky to give my Vols a run like Coach Fulmer gave us. National Championships don't happen every day.
Chavis's defense saved Fulmer's pumpkin arse more times than not. Love watching the VOLS although not a grad. And let's not forget 3-4 teams that lost the last week of regular season that were ahead of TN in the polls, or Arkansas, or the last second FG at Syracuse, or, or, and yes NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS are special.
Adam's does love him some Tigers, but I still like it when someone is not afraid to be a Vol yes man in the media. He has survived for many years in a rather hostile city .
Bone Collector
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I didn't get to watch this one, but this has become a big problem. Dude struggles with accuracy and is under microscope with literally everyone dissecting everything he does. These WRs are out here making it harder on him by dropping balls that hit them in the hands. You have to help your QB out, especially when any errant throw counts as 10 errant throws in everyone's eyes.
Go watch it before you blame it on the WRs. I'm not saying they didn't have issues, but Milton was terrible in this game other than the passes to the flat to a receiver standing still. As I said before, I'm not bashing the guy. I want him to be a superstar, but the accuracy seems to come and go from game to game.
deerfanatic
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He doesn't throw an easily catchable ball. Some of those could have been caught but his throwing style makes any pass not right on the money more difficult to catch than most other qb's
I hope the Vols were sandbagging, if they weren't they can't win at Gainesville and if they lose there it could be one of those things were it goes bad in a hurry. If they win it can be a game where they get that confidence and start handing out azzwhippings in the sec.
They win in Gainesville. Saturday was awful. Apart from Beasley, Wright, Small, and whatever the kickers name is EVERYONE sucked. Flarda looked alright this Saturday but UT will NOT lose to them. Good guys by double digits.
Displaced_Vol
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I didn't see the Austin Peay game but from what I've read if the Vols play like that they'll come back from the swamp with their lip hanging out carrying a big L.
THEdonkey0515
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Agree with this.
If UTs offense struggles they need to hand the keys to nico the next week against UTSA. I don't believe they will throw him in the fire against the gators in the swamp even with a bad first half.
Interesting stat considering all the noise about how bad Joe is
33% of Joe Milton's 21 incompletions on the year have been WR drops.
Turn those 7 drops into catches, Milton's stat line reads as follows:
• 49/63 (78%) 619 yds (min.), 8 total TD
the view on him would be DRASTICALLY different…. The WRs need to get their act together
33% of Joe Milton's 21 incompletions on the year have been WR drops.
Turn those 7 drops into catches, Milton's stat line reads as follows:
• 49/63 (78%) 619 yds (min.), 8 total TD
the view on him would be DRASTICALLY different…. The WRs need to get their act together
Once AGAIN, the numbers don't tell the story. 90+% of his completions are to the flat where a receiver is standing still facing him. Any team with a decent secondary will shut that down immediately when there's no threat of a pass going downfield. Moving receivers and throwing to a spot is killing him.
Most receivers will tell you that if it hits my hands, then I should catch it. At least that's what I said way back in 8th grade
. However, Joe's velocity affects that on some throws.
On the other hand, his velocity is the same in practice, so there is no excuse. I don't think StickUm is legal anymore, but we could use some.
Hope we can complete some deep balls Saturday.
I was reading this somewhere and also a caller to Erik Ainge show mentioned this. But he said that the velocity shouldn't be an issue as they set the jugs machine to a slightly higher velocity than what Milton throws.Most receivers will tell you that if it hits my hands, then I should catch it. At least that's what I said way back in 8th grade
However, Joe's velocity affects that on some throws.
On the other hand, his velocity is the same in practice, so there is no excuse. I don't think StickUm is legal anymore, but we could use some.
Hope we can complete some deep balls Saturday.
