killed a doe Saturday with the 336 30-30 and I have no ideal why I ever put it up?? 125 yards slightly quartering to me through the shoulder and out the liver ran 40 yards and dead. used the lever evolution ammo and I like it, the ole 270 may get a break more often, It sure brought back a lot of good memories carrying the ole lever 30-30 again. that is all carry on :grin: