seems all the people on here want to cluck and wait the bird out.Im sure that works but i like to hear the gobble.i call loud and often.I still do pretty good and its more fun to me that way.Who else hunts that way?
loud calling?
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Just depends on the gobbler for me. If he's gobbling and coming I will continue to call agressivley but if hes gobbling but his heart aint in it I might change positions and give him some soft stuff. I almost always cutt and yelp agressiveley trying to locate a bird.
I personally think aggressive calling kills more birds than it scares off. However you may not be able kill alot of older birds this way. But hey most of us would have quit along time ago if it weren't for those 2yr olds....LOL
Boll Weevil
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A bunch of the birds (probably a slim majority) I've killed over the years were nearly hoarse by the time they got to me. If he wants a loud-mouthed chick, I'm more than willing to grant his last wish.
aggressive calling works GREAT for 2 year old birds without a doubt. They will be the ones to commit more often then not with that style of calling. Nothing wrong with killing 2 years olds by any means and personally I like to shoot them in the face but more often then not that is the birds that really works for.
agree i too am a spur man, however spurs dont ALLOWS tell the story. Those are the only way to get close to a guestamet on age but its still a guess unless you really cut them open and start looking around.
I will be aggressive if the bird is really hammering or the hens nearby are being aggressive, i just play it the way the bird seems to like it.
I will be aggressive if the bird is really hammering or the hens nearby are being aggressive, i just play it the way the bird seems to like it.
1 1/4 lol if they are 1" he is getting shot at without a doubt. Not that i see them till i go and pick him up...heck if i can SEE them when he is strutting up he is getting shot at HA
Grizzly Johnson
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RAFI said:
What if that bird had 1.25" spurs the year before and broke them off to 3/4" nubs this spring?
:grin:
well, i should not say i am really a "spur" man...i should just say i am a TURKEY man! if it is an adult he is getting shot at plain and simple...i do love the some spurs but its more of a treat to walk up and see how big they are.
BHC
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Guarnatee you most everyone is louder than they'd like to believe. When he hasnt gobbled in two or three minutes its just hard to stay quit... im not big on just cutting and doing lots of excited calls. Tells that gobbler to stay put that hen is comin.
tnturkey30
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It all depends on the birds mood that day I have killed alot of turkeys sounding like a little h*$ker ....but more often then not I try to get a bird fired up then I will go silent on him ......always seems to me they can't take it when you play that way....
I love talking dirty!
Two of my four from last year came from heavily pressured public land via cutts and cackles (glad I didn't listen to those who said that was only a flydown call).
Two years ago that combo brought a whole flock from 100 yds out in a field. First the jakes came to the fence line. Then after they drifted off another round brought the hens. And then after they drifted off another round brought the big boy in range.
Two of my four from last year came from heavily pressured public land via cutts and cackles (glad I didn't listen to those who said that was only a flydown call).
Two years ago that combo brought a whole flock from 100 yds out in a field. First the jakes came to the fence line. Then after they drifted off another round brought the hens. And then after they drifted off another round brought the big boy in range.
Grizzly Johnson
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RAFI said:Grizzly Johnson said:RAFI said:
What if that bird had 1.25" spurs the year before and broke them off to 3/4" nubs this spring?
hes still on the grill but im not happy
LOLOLOL.... hammertime!!!
Setterman
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To each their own, and whatever works best for you is how I look at this.
I used to call super loud and super aggressively. However, I found over time I had much more success by playing it coy, and being patient. The main thing that really shifted the odds in my favor was becoming a tactician at getting ultra close before making the first peep to a bird. When I say close, I mean pushing the envelope on getting busted or being in the perfect position.
When you get close, sparingly calling is deadly.
The loud stuff works great on 2 year old birds, or birds that are alone and lonely. It can have serious issues with birds that are super henned up, as the hens just march away.
A good rule of thumb is, if the hens are vocal and loud, then be loud. If the hens are silent or very soft, then follow suit. Works pretty well IMO.
I used to call super loud and super aggressively. However, I found over time I had much more success by playing it coy, and being patient. The main thing that really shifted the odds in my favor was becoming a tactician at getting ultra close before making the first peep to a bird. When I say close, I mean pushing the envelope on getting busted or being in the perfect position.
When you get close, sparingly calling is deadly.
The loud stuff works great on 2 year old birds, or birds that are alone and lonely. It can have serious issues with birds that are super henned up, as the hens just march away.
A good rule of thumb is, if the hens are vocal and loud, then be loud. If the hens are silent or very soft, then follow suit. Works pretty well IMO.
catman529
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killed my only bearded bird (a jake) following a hen which came running in to my cluck and purr.... we'll see how it goes this spring, #1 goal is a longbeard. Might not want to call too loud cause its public land.
Setterman
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RAFI said:
Ha, I wasn't trying to, and hope you and everyone else hunts the way you want to, it is your hunt not mine.
bvoss
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It depends on the situation and the bird. I love to call hard to a bird and have him gobble all the way in. But more often than not its the soft stuff that kills most of my birds.
Lawrence
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For me it all depends on the bird
If he likes soft and sweet thats what I give him
If you get too agressive and he has hens
the next time you hear him gobble he will be two
ridges away
If he likes soft and sweet thats what I give him
If you get too agressive and he has hens
the next time you hear him gobble he will be two
ridges away
BowGuy84
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Setterman said:
I agree with this, although I'm not all that good at it. I set up within 70 yards of a bird that was on the ground last year and had him dead in 5 minutes with 2 purrs.
I set up withing 200 yards of a different bird and it took almost 2 hours.
I don't have a lot of experience, but to me it seems like getting in tight to them makes it much easier than anything else you can do. To do this you have to know the land and cover. Its the step above knowing where the turkeys like to go, its knowing where they are and how you can kill them right there. Saves time but will probably lead to some busted birds. Especially early in the season before green up.
BHC
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X2Setterman said:
sometimes you can get too close to them.lol I had one gobbling and he was facing away from me and I thought he was on another ridge.I was moving on him and he gobbled again and was in a tree 40 yards from me.I had to sit down in the logging road.i could have shot him out of the tree.I was too close and thats a time i didn;t call loud at first.He had several hens fly into the trees around him then he flew down and with them.He didn't answer many of my calls.he stayed in strut with the hens.
i moved on the bird several times but he wouldn't leave the hens.about 9 he wouldn't answer anything but a crow call so i kept up with him that way.I finally cutt nonstop and he went crazy gobbling.The bird left the hens and came into 20 yards finally.He was an older bird.1 1/4 spurs and 23lbs best i remember
i moved on the bird several times but he wouldn't leave the hens.about 9 he wouldn't answer anything but a crow call so i kept up with him that way.I finally cutt nonstop and he went crazy gobbling.The bird left the hens and came into 20 yards finally.He was an older bird.1 1/4 spurs and 23lbs best i remember
bvoss
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RAFI said:
Disagree. If its a longbeard. It cranks my tractor. Spurs are just icing on the cake.
@fulldraw
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i prefer spurs too. i'm fortunate to hunt around a lot of ag land and i'm usually looking for the spurs before i shoot.
the loudness of my calls depends on the individual bird i'm calling to. i love watching those 2 yr olds gobbling their heads off running in to the decoys. it's very hard not to pull the trigger on them.
the loudness of my calls depends on the individual bird i'm calling to. i love watching those 2 yr olds gobbling their heads off running in to the decoys. it's very hard not to pull the trigger on them.
If you are saying you only shoot turkeys with 1 1/4" spurs or longer then my guess is you have about as many turkeys as you have 150" deer.....Not many!!!!
