Loose vs. Pellet

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I hope this isn't a long running "religious" war, but I really need to know. I have my first in-line, so this wasn't an issue for me before.

Why would I choose loose over pellets with my in-line? The ease of the pellets seems very nice. Please help me out in this!
 
The pros to pellets are that they are convienent. That's about it.

The pros to loose is the ability to tweek your charge + or - 5 grains, cheaper, stronger and the shelf life is longer. If you only hunt a couple days a year w/a ML then pellets are probably the way to go. However, if you're like me and hunt exclusively w/MLs then you will probably want to use loose.
 
Get better accuracy out of loose. or at least I do.I don't find loose powder as an inconvenince, couple of speed loaders and you are set.
 
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I use pellets, for convenience. I like convenience, however i plan to experiment with both to see if the trade off is worth it. I lost the biggest buck of my life with a mz last season, but i wouldnt blame it on pellets.....it was the shooter.
 
I really enjoy my muzzle loaders and I also hunt more with them then I do with anything else...I'm a recent converter to loose, all I had ever shot was the pellets. First Pyrodex and then 777. The 777 pellets were so much better than the Pyrodex (in both my guns). I thought that accuracy for muzzle loaders was just being able to hit a pie plate at 100yrds. After giving loose 777 a try I am convinced and converted. I was able to measure out exactly the load for each gun that optimizes powder burn and bullet accuracy. As far as I am concerned I will never shoot pellets again...Loose is the ticket for less than 1" groups and efficient powder burns...which turns in to more shots per dollar spent. How can you not use loose? my .02
 
I use loose, and a few years ago a couple of my friends turned me on to weighing my loads rather than just measuring them by volume. Every load weighs exactly the same to the nearest 0.1 grain. My accuracy got way better after doing this, but just rember that 100 grains by volume does not equal 100 grains by weight (more like 75 grains by weight plus or minus).
 
Pro's and Con's for both. The answer depends on you.If you have alot of time to spend practicing at the range loose will give better results in time.Every M.L. has a perfect load . It might be anywhere from 85 to 95 or 100 grains. It takes time to figure out a perfect load and bullet weight combo.That being said.
With any M.L. being able to load it consistantly "exactly" the same every shot is required to get good tight groups. With only alittle over 2 months till M.L. opens I would start out using 2 50 grain pellets to get your new gun sited in and ready for deer season.RamRod pressure is where I see many guys having trouble getting tight groups.Make sure you seat the bullet with the same amount of rod pressure each time. Read your mannuel and go with the manufactuers recomendations to start out. Pellets do cost more than loose. If you get the perfect loose load you can get 1" or under groups. If you use pellets you can still get 3" or less groups. Either one is good enough to get ya a deer this season. Good Luck.
 
Pellets, I've shot both but just like the pellets better. I couldn't get the power belts to load the same each time with the loose. I think it has to do something with the hollow base on the PB's. I have my rod marked and hardly ever got the mark in the same place when loading.
 
Thanks, y'all! I plan on trying the pellets, first. If I can get a group under 3 inches at 100, I'll go with them. Otherwise, I go back to loose.

I also plan on starting off with the 300g Hornady SST's or Shockwaves (aren't they the same thing?).
 
JRE said:
I use loose, and a few years ago a couple of my friends turned me on to weighing my loads rather than just measuring them by volume. Every load weighs exactly the same to the nearest 0.1 grain. My accuracy got way better after doing this, but just rember that 100 grains by volume does not equal 100 grains by weight (more like 75 grains by weight plus or minus).

Make your conclusion after reading this!! Found this on the gunners den web site

"Measuring Powder Charges.
Black powder is measured by volume and weight, 80 grain volume equals 80 grains in weight. Black powder substitute powders are all designed to replace black powder by volume and volume only according to powder granule size.
Example: 80 grain FFFg black powder replaced by 80 grain FFFg Hodgdon 777 by volume measure only.
Do not weigh any black powder charge and then use an equivalent weight of any of the substitute powders, the consequencies of such an experiment will most likely not be good for you or your muzzleloader.
Working Up An Accurate Load.
Adjust your powder charge within the limits of safety, check muzzleloader manufacturer recommendations. A well made muzzleloading rifle should perform well with 80 to 100 grain volume charge of 2-FFg black powder for hunting.
Firing a series of 3-5 shot groups, start your powder charge at the lowest manufacturers recommendation, up your powder charge 5 grains per group until you have reached your muzzleloaders manufacturers maximum charge recommendation, this will determine what charge works best for your rifle with your projectile choice.

Fine Tuning Your Load.
Up to this point you have been using volume measure, now you can drag out the powder scale and fine tune your powder charge. We'll say that your most accurate powder charge was 90 grain volume charge of black mag3 powder, your 85 grain volume measure of black mag3 was pretty good but not as good as 90 grain, your 95 grain volume measure of black mag3 was pretty good but not as good as 90 grain. To fine tune your powder charge, you now scale weigh your 85 grain volume measure powder charge and you scale weigh your 95 grain volume measure powder charge. Working up from your lowest scale weight, again fire 3-5 shot groups 1 grain weight at a time till you reach your highest scale weight, this will give you the most accurate load that you can achieve with your rifle and bullet combination by selecting the smallest group of your weighed charges.

Make A Powder Measure.
Now that you have an exact load for your muzzleloader you need to make or buy a powder measure that will throw your powder charge by volume exactly the same, for loading consistency. Do not use weighed charges of any powder, black or otherwise other than to work up an accurate load."
 

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