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TLRanger":2lgki1oa said:
Land Between the Lakes":2lgki1oa said:
There are a lot of places in LBL with little hunting pressure, especially once you get more than half a mile off a road. Most people who hunt LBL hunt at or near a crop field, or other type of field, or they hunt within half a mile of a road. However, some people do walk in several miles to hunt, or they walk in several miles and back-country camp and hunt for a few days several miles from the nearest road.

After studying the map of LBL, I cannot find any place "several miles" from a legal road. The best I can come up with it about 1.5 miles from a road and that is a rare place.

Some of my very best places are within sight of a road. I usually park two or three hundred yards away from them and walk down the road to access the area. I certainly do not use a marker at these places -bright eye, beer can, flagging tape, etc- to alert anyone else where I am. :tu:


Many people do walk in several miles. I have done so myself. I have also hiked most of the North/South Trail and there are spots along the trail where it's possible to walk several miles in between roads. And your correct sometimes good places can be close to roads.
 
Land Between the Lakes":3t9o04fi said:
I have also hiked most of the North/South Trail and there are spots along the trail where it's possible to walk several miles in between roads.
That is technically true if you consider 2 to 3 miles "several" miles. :D

But what somewhat negates the statement is that almost no where along the NS Trail are you not within a mile of a different road.

Also, the NS Trail (like most trails) does meander a bit, so the actual walking distance between two points on it will always be more than the shorter distance the crow flies.

If you really want to see "remote" (at least in Tennessee and by TN Standards), you'll have to go the Cherokee National Forest. There, you really can walk "several" miles and not be within several miles of any road. I know of no other place in TN of much significance where that could be factually said, at least no other place you could actually legally hunt.
 
TLRanger":38q978lo said:
Land Between the Lakes":38q978lo said:
There are a lot of places in LBL with little hunting pressure, especially once you get more than half a mile off a road. Most people who hunt LBL hunt at or near a crop field, or other type of field, or they hunt within half a mile of a road. However, some people do walk in several miles to hunt, or they walk in several miles and back-country camp and hunt for a few days several miles from the nearest road.

After studying the map of LBL, I cannot find any place "several miles" from a legal road. The best I can come up with it about 1.5 miles from a road and that is a rare place.

Some of my very best places are within sight of a road. I usually park two or three hundred yards away from them and walk down the road to access the area. I certainly do not use a marker at these places -bright eye, beer can, flagging tape, etc- to alert anyone else where I am. :tu:

Kinda what I do. I've only hunted there twice but each time I was within 1000 yards of the road. I saw deer that I was confident were being pushed towards the road by those going 2000 yards off the road.
 
I have a tactic that I learned growing up in Alabama on public ground. I always hunt close to water, and thickest stuff you can find. I've had luck in Tennesee at multiple public places including LBL and in Alabama.
 
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Honestly area 12 is about like any other area in LBL, mostly big hardwoods and ridges. There has been a decent amount of logging during the past few years in parts of area 12. There's some decent bucks in that area, but they can be scattered since there is so much forest cover in that area. I'd just look for some natural food sources, pinch-points, and travel routes the deer are using.
 
TheLBLman":16x40ta9 said:
Land Between the Lakes":16x40ta9 said:
I have also hiked most of the North/South Trail and there are spots along the trail where it's possible to walk several miles in between roads.
That is technically true if you consider 2 to 3 miles "several" miles. :D

But what somewhat negates the statement is that almost no where along the NS Trail are you not within a mile of a different road.

Also, the NS Trail (like most trails) does meander a bit, so the actual walking distance between two points on it will always be more than the shorter distance the crow flies.

If you really want to see "remote" (at least in Tennessee and by TN Standards), you'll have to go the Cherokee National Forest. There, you really can walk "several" miles and not be within several miles of any road. I know of no other place in TN of much significance where that could be factually said, at least no other place you could actually legally hunt.

If you count Cherokee National Forest, Chattahoochee National Forest, Pisgah National Forest, Nantahala National Forest, and the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, there is over 3 million acres of preserved wilderness on the Tennessee/North Carolina/Georgia borders. I've hiked in that area, there are places there with very little human contact.
 
Roost 1":dnit8kmd said:
harley 2008":dnit8kmd said:
When its quota gun hunts , You will see another hunter sooner or later.


Elmer makes his rounds.
Its especially bad on the quota hunts because 90% of the people that show up haven't set foot on the place since they got drawn last 2 years ago. Also the same people that complain there are no deer on the place.
 
Poser":1tlxefnq said:
If you hunt in thick stuff where visibility is greatly reduced, I do think you reduce your chances of seeing other hunters since few want to hunt where they can only shoot 40 yards when they have a rifle in their hands.
Truer words never spoken, and besides, THESE are the places most the deer quickly gravitate the day BEFORE the quota hunts when all the Elmer Fudds are out "scouting".

Ironically, some of the best places to avoid other hunters aren't far from major roads, but such spots are seldom within 200 yards of any field.
 
Poser":1pr3xteh said:
Headhunter":1pr3xteh said:
There are some places you can get away from people. Just have to find them.

Normally, yes, but on quota hunts, another hunter can walk up on you at anytime and there is no way to plan for that or find a place that no hunter will go. If you hunt in thick stuff where visibility is greatly reduced, I do think you reduce your chances of seeing other hunters since few want to hunt where they can only shoot 40 yards when they have a rifle in their hands. There will always be a few who will go deep, quite a few who will walk a moderate distance (some do this intentionally to put themselves between the deep hunters and the shallow hunters. Others consider a half a mile to be a "long ways.). There are also those who hunt 50 yards in the woods. Any and all can have success on a quota hunt, but you just can't count on what other people are going to do. Similar as above, some will be in the woods super early. Others will start walking at daybreak. Some will "claim" a trailhead by parking there at 4 am, others will cruise the roads at day break to see where others are parked.


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I have a couple of places I hunt in a couple areas on quota hunts and I never have seen another hunter. It may change, but I never have and I have been hunting there for over 30 years and putting in for quota hunts every year and when drawn I always go.
 
I have a couple of places I hunt in a couple areas on quota hunts and I never have seen another hunter. It may change, but I never have and I have been hunting there for over 30 years and putting in for quota hunts every year and when drawn I always go.[/quote]. got any pictures of what all you have killed?


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Headhunter":2nba45kg said:
Poser":2nba45kg said:
Headhunter":2nba45kg said:
There are some places you can get away from people. Just have to find them.

Normally, yes, but on quota hunts, another hunter can walk up on you at anytime and there is no way to plan for that or find a place that no hunter will go. If you hunt in thick stuff where visibility is greatly reduced, I do think you reduce your chances of seeing other hunters since few want to hunt where they can only shoot 40 yards when they have a rifle in their hands. There will always be a few who will go deep, quite a few who will walk a moderate distance (some do this intentionally to put themselves between the deep hunters and the shallow hunters. Others consider a half a mile to be a "long ways.). There are also those who hunt 50 yards in the woods. Any and all can have success on a quota hunt, but you just can't count on what other people are going to do. Similar as above, some will be in the woods super early. Others will start walking at daybreak. Some will "claim" a trailhead by parking there at 4 am, others will cruise the roads at day break to see where others are parked.


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I have a couple of places I hunt in a couple areas on quota hunts and I never have seen another hunter. It may change, but I never have and I have been hunting there for over 30 years and putting in for quota hunts every year and when drawn I always go.

May be one the best deer hunters around judging from some of your posts... I assume you never play the wind at LBL either.... the rest of us must be over complicating things.
 
Roost1, you almost got it right in that for the most part I don't pay attention to the wind there for the most part, can't remember paying attention anyway and while I am probably the worst deer hunter you will ever know of (that is a fact), I am probably one of the most persistent. If I think it will benefit me, I will use the wind, if the sign I am looking for is there, I am hunting it, whether some "expert" says you should or not. I am just stupid like that, of course I cannot even begin to count the number of deer I have killed or got a great opportunity to kill doing the wrong thing. Funny how that works. I am sure I have been busted by deer also by doing the wrong thing and never even knew about it, and of course have messed up and the deer for sure let me know it, but I do believe way to many overthink it. There is a reason why many times a brand new hunter kills a great buck or even a true giant. They don't think they know more than the deer.

I will agree that many over complicate things, especially those that think they know where the deer are going to go or or where they will come from. If I strictly played the wind, at least as I understand it is supposed to be done, many places I hunt would NEVER be hunted because there is almost never a right wind for those spots and I still have killed deer and some nice bucks out of those places that so many will say "you can't hunt there with this or that wind, deer will never come in that area if you are there, you HAVE to have a particular wind direction to hunt there, you can or can't hunt there in the morning of the evening due to wind currents, etc". Heck it is like food now, if you paid attention to everything you would almost never eat because everything causes cancer or something.

I would share my spots, but since the "experts" who hunt the wind probably would never hunt them (one place is in the bottom of a deep "bowl), I will keep them to myself.
 
Headhunter":2gfz1m1s said:
Roost1, you almost got it right in that for the most part I don't pay attention to the wind there for the most part, can't remember paying attention anyway and while I am probably the worst deer hunter you will ever know of (that is a fact), I am probably one of the most persistent. If I think it will benefit me, I will use the wind, if the sign I am looking for is there, I am hunting it, whether some "expert" says you should or not. I am just stupid like that, of course I cannot even begin to count the number of deer I have killed or got a great opportunity to kill doing the wrong thing. Funny how that works. I am sure I have been busted by deer also by doing the wrong thing and never even knew about it, and of course have messed up and the deer for sure let me know it, but I do believe way to many overthink it. There is a reason why many times a brand new hunter kills a great buck or even a true giant. They don't think they know more than the deer.

I will agree that many over complicate things, especially those that think they know where the deer are going to go or or where they will come from. If I strictly played the wind, at least as I understand it is supposed to be done, many places I hunt would NEVER be hunted because there is almost never a right wind for those spots and I still have killed deer and some nice bucks out of those places that so many will say "you can't hunt there with this or that wind, deer will never come in that area if you are there, you HAVE to have a particular wind direction to hunt there, you can or can't hunt there in the morning of the evening due to wind currents, etc". Heck it is like food now, if you paid attention to everything you would almost never eat because everything causes cancer or something.

I would share my spots, but since the "experts" who hunt the wind probably would never hunt them (one place is in the bottom of a deep "bowl), I will keep them to myself.
Well stated
 
Headhunter":1xrn3m5s said:
I would share my spots, but since the "experts" who hunt the wind probably would never hunt them (one place is in the bottom of a deep "bowl), I will keep them to myself.

I wouldn't share my spots anyway. Let them take the time to find their own
 
Scouted 12 today. Saw quite a few scrapes and a handful of rubs. Both on top of ridges and bottoms.
It seems to me that their are so many oaks that hunting trees dropping acorns could be futile UNLESS you find a trail or other sign around. Just my two pennies.
 
Poser":1ugxm91b said:
Any and all can have success on a quota hunt, but you just can't count on what other people are going to do.
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Same thing happened last year. I had picked spots on the map and when i went in tree stands were hung already. I got to one of my far back spots and it was clear, so I hung my stand and locked it up. In the morning when i went in I had to walk past a guy already in a tree and I left early. He was flashing his light, like I was going to turn around and just not hunt or was going to find another way to my stand, but of course i didn't know another way...

TheLBLman":1ugxm91b said:
Truer words never spoken, and besides, THESE are the places most the deer quickly gravitate the day BEFORE the quota hunts when all the Elmer Fudds are out "scouting".

Be vewy vewy quiet I'm hunting wabbits.... Just because someone doesn't live close to a place and would rather spend their free time in hunting season, hunting vs. going to LBL to scout because they were drawn, doesn't make them an Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd's are the idiots that will be walking around at 8 am looking for deer. I don't mean the guys that know how to "still hunt" I'm talking about the guys just walking up and down logging roads, and old service roads, making a ton of noise. Although, I don't think you should still hunt on a quota hunt out of respect for others.
 
Bone Collector":3entnpa9 said:
Poser":3entnpa9 said:
Any and all can have success on a quota hunt, but you just can't count on what other people are going to do.
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Same thing happened last year. I had picked spots on the map and when i went in tree stands were hung already. I got to one of my far back spots and it was clear, so I hung my stand and locked it up. In the morning when i went in I had to walk past a guy already in a tree and I left early. He was flashing his light, like I was going to turn around and just not hunt or was going to find another way to my stand, but of course i didn't know another way...

TheLBLman":3entnpa9 said:
Truer words never spoken, and besides, THESE are the places most the deer quickly gravitate the day BEFORE the quota hunts when all the Elmer Fudds are out "scouting".

Be vewy vewy quiet I'm hunting wabbits.... Just because someone doesn't live close to a place and would rather spend their free time in hunting season, hunting vs. going to LBL to scout because they were drawn, doesn't make them an Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd's are the idiots that will be walking around at 8 am looking for deer. I don't mean the guys that know how to "still hunt" I'm talking about the guys just walking up and down logging roads, and old service roads, making a ton of noise. Although, I don't think you should still hunt on a quota hunt out of respect for others.
This
 
jb357":1x3gg0iq said:
Roost 1":1x3gg0iq said:
harley 2008":1x3gg0iq said:
When its quota gun hunts , You will see another hunter sooner or later.


Elmer makes his rounds.
Its especially bad on the quota hunts because 90% of the people that show up haven't set foot on the place since they got drawn last 2 years ago. Also the same people that complain there are no deer on the place.
I don't get it, I mean I do but, people really walk around while you are hunting that's dangerous as all get out a person could get shot that way surprised that hasn't happened. I'll just be on high alert. If I hadn't already spent the money for this trip I would just stay home and hunt one my leases. Only allowed 1 deer a buck or doe
 
TheLBLman":3jx3h72z said:
MXB 400":3jx3h72z said:
Only allowed 1 deer a buck or doe
Just in case you might not be aware,
ANY buck taken on LBL now counts towards your statewide 2-buck limit, EVEN on the QUOTA GUN HUNTS.
Yes another reason to stay home but already vested in going. If you kill a doe isn't LBL in unit L and will it count as your 1 allowed during gun
 
I don't think antlerless deer taken at LBL count toward any statewide bag, but even it they did, LBL is in Unit L, so basically no limit on antlerless there. Don't know what you're talking about with the one (1) number.
 
TheLBLman":3e5xs0i7 said:
I don't think antlerless deer taken at LBL count toward any statewide bag, but even it they did, LBL is in Unit L, so basically no limit on antlerless there. Don't know what you're talking about with the one (1) number.
Called them today and you can only take a buck or a doe on quota hunt not both only 1 deer period
 
MXB 400":1zabn836 said:
Called them today and you can only take a buck or a doe on quota hunt not both only 1 deer period
True. Nothing new there.
All that's "new" is the buck (any buck taken at LBL) counts towards the statewide buck limit (whereas LBL bucks used to be "bonus" bucks).
 

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