Those are a darn site better scopes than Bushnell Simmons or Tasco. I've looked through them and compared them to some Entry Level Nikon and Leupold VX1 and they are pretty close opticly. The peeps that own them don't see, to have the same issues with fogging and shaking loose like the cheap Bushnells, Tascos and Simmons seem to come plagued with. A man could do far worse with $60
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