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Remember those severe storms the Mid West just had? Well, I decided that was a perfect time to travel to NW Kansas and try my luck on a Rio. Grapefruit sized hail and impassable roads plus tight lipped birds made for a tough yet fun hunt.

Hunting a turkey in the high plains is a rather unique experience. Basically the area either has turkeys or not, you can do a lot of glassing from vantage points to scout areas, listen for them well into the night gobbling on the roost (I heard them @ 9:15pm) and use google earth to identify areas of turkey habitat. That habitat is either creek bottoms with trees or wooded draws. Yes, they will travel great distances through the open plains but for the most part they seem to be going to and from the few trees that exist. I also had to plan my hunts accordingly because if any property had a creek on it, that creek was not crossable. The amount of rain had every ditch and creek rolling. I even fell up to my hip on a 2 foot wide ditch, not sure if it had a bottom to it or not.


I never once set my tent up, the storms produces extreme high winds so I just slept on the back of my truck. That allowed me to stay out wherever till dark and not have a "base camp" to rush back to. I mentioned hearing them gobble at 9:15 pm, here is one strutting at 8:30pm.


The birds were tough hunting, if I had to sleep in 30-50mph wind gust wouldn't be to eager the next day either. I was able to get on a few birds but they stayed on the other side of the line. Since I was limited on where I could go, due to the horrible and impassable road conditions, I decided to slack off on the pressure and leave them alone and go find others. That proved to be difficult, if it wasn't raining it was hot. Those high plains warm up quick and the birds seemed to retreat to cover and lay low. The hens appeared to be moving to the nest later in the morning but still, the Toms wouldn't strike up for me unless I was able to sneak in to some big cover without busting them out.

Big and Beautiful strutting Rio


I hunted Monday afternoon, Tues all day, Wed afternoon (severe weather that morn) and Thurs all day. On Thursday I covered a large section that had more trees than any plains area I have ever seen. Hundreds of acres of oak and cedar, mostly on bluff ground. I spent a few hours out, glassing and blind calling. Seeing nothing but was able to play back and forth with some hens. But where were the Toms?

As I was coming out and back to the truck I spotted some about 1 1/2 mile away in a old crop field, Strutters! I hurried towards them, using the draws and a very wet ditch as cover to close the distance. I was able to get within 300 yards. I started calling, no response though. I broke out a box call and hit it as hard as I could, one strutter that was slightly off my himself hammered back. Score, I just needed to get loud. After about 40 mins of calling, working him in a bit closer, only to have the other strutters come in and lure him back away I knew it was time to change up. It looked like 3 other strutters and a couple hens, so I crawled up the ditch and closed the distance another 125+ yards. While I was crawling they actually moved off and away from me some, dang it! I had no decoy, no fan, nothing...yes I would have tried anything at this point. I just dropped $200 on a KS turkey tag and a lot of hard work, I wanted some birds to come in and play.

Little did I know, the whole time I was calling to these birds I had struck the attention of 3 jakes. Just as I had lost all hope, they all 3 hammered almost excatly from the location I was just sitting at 10 mins prior (I would be lying if I was to say I would not have shot one of them). Those 3 horny and eager Jakes is all it took to shake this whole scenario around, they caught the attention of those other birds and game was on! The Toms turned back around and started making their way, I caught glimps of the hens so I started calling and purring to them. Hoping to have them come in close to me, so maybe the males would swing by. It worked, a little to good though. I had 3 hens with 10 yards of me, while the 7 males were fighting and purring no more than 50 yards out in front. How long could I sit there before the hen busted me? Turns out, not long at all. The led hen started putting and turned away, lucky for me the annoying Jakes got whopped and the Toms were pushing them towards the hens/me. This by default turned the led hen back around, so she ran quickly passed me and luring ALL other birds no more than 10 yards from me.

After an hour of working birds it all came together and my first Rio Grande turkey was on the ground!


A nice 2 yr old with a sterotypical long and slender beard. He looked like he weighed 50 lbs, but was 20 soaking wet. Had the buffed color to him and when strutting had the reddest head I have ever seen.


Nice colors


So that's it, deke and blind free Kansas Rio. Not gonna lie, if I had a deke or a blind I would have used :D Especially the blind, I would have stayed dry.
 
I also made my first batch of turkey leg carnitas. Absolutely the BEST turkey and possibly carnitas I have ever eaten.

I separated the leg and thigh, froze the thighs for later.


I then braised the thighs in garlic, ancho chilies, cumin, salt/pepper for about 5 hours.


Everything just fell right off the bone, amazingly tender.


Crisping up a real corn tortilla and the shredded meat, that crispy meat really made it.


Fresh cilantro and pico, keeping it simple.


I figured Rio Grande turkey and carnitas would be a perfect pairing. Try it, you will love it and NEVER throw a leg away again.
 
Vermin93":2q2aa9w5 said:
Cool story. Congrats on the Rio. I made the turkey leg carnitas last year. I agree that it's a winner.

Did you see any mule deer?

Oh yea. I applied for a muzzle loader tag in the area but I chose not to apply for the muley tag. I will see what this fall produces and may apply for a muley tag next year.


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Great read and congrats on the bird. It seams like bad weather just follows you. Hopefully mother nature doesn't know where alaska is.
 
Awesome story.
Congrats on the bird.
Thank for sharing your preparation of the kill and food.
Where's the hungry icon?
 
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read, it was a great time.


Buzzard Breath":3jk9g3mf said:
It seams like bad weather just follows you. Hopefully mother nature doesn't know where alaska is.

Ha, yea Mother Nature did chase a couple hunters out of NW Nebraska a couple years ago. Hopefully Mother Nature is more mad at Russia that AK will get a break!
 
GOODWIN":20thqfxg said:
Made a version of the carnitas last night with legs and thighs...excellent!!!!

Glad more folks are doing. I believe once you braise turkey legs, you will realize how easy and delicious they are that you will never toss them out.

How did the thighs do? I havent cooked mine yet. Im thinking of smoking or doing some type of bbq with them.


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AT Hiker":2wy74q7g said:
GOODWIN":2wy74q7g said:
Made a version of the carnitas last night with legs and thighs...excellent!!!!

Glad more folks are doing. I believe once you braise turkey legs, you will realize how easy and delicious they are that you will never toss them out.

How did the thighs do? I havent cooked mine yet. Im thinking of smoking or doing some type of bbq with them.


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Thighs were very tender, full of flavor. They'd make a great pulled bbq samich. Last time I toss them for sure. Now I need to get creative with the turkey breast I've got in the freezer. Kind of tired of fried nuggets!
 
MidTennFisher":19ucpebv said:
Beautiful pictures and bird, congrats! Were you hunting public land? I'd love to get a Merriams or Rio one of these years.

I hunted some public but mostly private. In all honesty I heard more birds on the public land but since I had access to the private I hunted it (plus it was a deer scouting trip for these properties as well so I didnt want to waste time on public that I would not be deer hunting).

I killed a Merriam on SD public land and hunted NE public land too (no kill but plenty of opportunity). Public land Rio and Merriam is VERY doable. It does take planning and research, with two people it is also affordable and a blast.


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AT Hiker":35mktckf said:
MidTennFisher":35mktckf said:
Beautiful pictures and bird, congrats! Were you hunting public land? I'd love to get a Merriams or Rio one of these years.

I hunted some public but mostly private. In all honesty I heard more birds on the public land but since I had access to the private I hunted it (plus it was a deer scouting trip for these properties as well so I didnt want to waste time on public that I would not be deer hunting).

I killed a Merriam on SD public land and hunted NE public land too (no kill but plenty of opportunity). Public land Rio and Merriam is VERY doable. It does take planning and research, with two people it is also affordable and a blast.


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Did you make prior trips to scout the land or just pic spots based on research and looking at maps? It seems like a lot of effort to make trips that far away just to scout for a turkey.
 
MidTennFisher":2kb1ejxq said:
Did you make prior trips to scout the land or just pic spots based on research and looking at maps? It seems like a lot of effort to make trips that far away just to scout for a turkey.

I have hunted out West every for the past 6 years and have spent time hiking and camping out there as well. So basically I am familiar with the general areas and what the landscapes look like. That has helped me narrow down more specific areas to research for hunting. I then start attacking all research sources I can; local biologist, forest service, magazines, internet, etc. i have back up plans on top of back up plans. I scout via Google earth and use Onxmaps some too.

Western turkeys are very specific. Basically if you can find a very large public area (say minimum 2k acres) that has a lot of water and trees you will can bet it has animals. You then need to find out if that area has turkeys, thats when you call the biologist.

Some questions you need to ask are; population densities (are there enough turkeys to legitimately hunt), hunter pressure and to certain extent success rates (10% of hunters tend to kill 90% of animals).

I will say Nebraska is extremely friendly to the non resident hunter. Their game and fish department has a ton of resources to help you on a DIY public land hunt. Yes they want your money but they also want you to come back and spend more. This staye has both Merriam and Rio

Western SD has some of the most beautiful areas to hunt with ample amounts of public land. Bird numbers are ok. This is a Merriam area.

KS is tricky, very little public land but they do have walk in areas they lease. You can get a atlas from game and fish. Western and Central KS is your Rio areas and the further East the more eastern birds you find. Its not uncommon to have a eastern and rio hanging out in the same flock in some areas. So stay West if you want a Rio security.

Head further West to NM or AZ and you have larger amounts of National Forest for Merriams. Harder to get tags but can be some great hunting.

One thing to remember about Western turkeys. Them suckers will flat out travel during a day, like 10 + miles or more in some situations. So if they are not there one day doesnt mean they are not there the next.

If you do travel West for turkeys just make it a adventure and have fun. Tags are typically cheap and easy to get (all things considered) so filling one is less stressful. The scenery is amazing, beer is awesome and the humidity is practically void....what is not to like!


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