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Truedouble

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Isn't Kroll a big fan of deer farming?

Don't know anything about SAK but just saying I don't put any stock into what "Dr. Deer" says. The fact that he accepts the name Dr. Deer is enough for me...LOL

Don't see how state regs. could "ruin your hunting", but I"m sure the case could be made that in some areas they aren't needed any longer.
 
Although I wasn't all that impressed with Kroll's report for WI, I did like that he stressed better data collection of all types, from actual deer population figures to hunter opinion surveys (what do hunters really want?).

Luckily, we don't relly on the population models WI and many other states use (models I've been very critical of). In fact, TN now leads the nation in knowing the size and composition of the state's deer herd, thanks to their new thermal imaging surveys.
 
BSK said:
Although I wasn't all that impressed with Kroll's report for WI, I did like that he stressed better data collection of all types, from actual deer population figures to hunter opinion surveys (what do hunters really want?).

Luckily, we don't relly on the population models WI and many other states use (models I've been very critical of). In fact, TN now leads the nation in knowing the size and composition of the state's deer herd, thanks to their new thermal imaging surveys.


Im sorry, but the WI DNR has been helping hunters for years. They recognized a need for herd manegement years ago. Thats why you have an earn a buck program. You must kill a doe in order to kill a buck. ONE BUCK, is all you get. It leads to people chosing mature older deer to kill. And, it keeps the herd in check with the killingh of a doe. I can show you proof of it. I lived there for 25 years.
 
thejetman said:
BSK said:
Although I wasn't all that impressed with Kroll's report for WI, I did like that he stressed better data collection of all types, from actual deer population figures to hunter opinion surveys (what do hunters really want?).

Luckily, we don't relly on the population models WI and many other states use (models I've been very critical of). In fact, TN now leads the nation in knowing the size and composition of the state's deer herd, thanks to their new thermal imaging surveys.


Im sorry, but the WI DNR has been helping hunters for years. They recognized a need for herd manegement years ago. Thats why you have an earn a buck program. You must kill a doe in order to kill a buck. ONE BUCK, is all you get. It leads to people chosing mature older deer to kill. And, it keeps the herd in check with the killingh of a doe. I can show you proof of it. I lived there for 25 years.
How much of their management practices are influenced by the areas of their state where they have CWD?
 
thejetman said:
BSK said:
Although I wasn't all that impressed with Kroll's report for WI, I did like that he stressed better data collection of all types, from actual deer population figures to hunter opinion surveys (what do hunters really want?).

Luckily, we don't relly on the population models WI and many other states use (models I've been very critical of). In fact, TN now leads the nation in knowing the size and composition of the state's deer herd, thanks to their new thermal imaging surveys.


Im sorry, but the WI DNR has been helping hunters for years. They recognized a need for herd manegement years ago. Thats why you have an earn a buck program. You must kill a doe in order to kill a buck. ONE BUCK, is all you get. It leads to people chosing mature older deer to kill. And, it keeps the herd in check with the killingh of a doe. I can show you proof of it. I lived there for 25 years.

thejetman,

I'm by no means "downing" WI management. The WI DNR is between a rock and a hard place. They deal with problems we don't have here in TN, in that they have extraordinarily high hunter densities, as well as--in places--extraordinarily high deer densities (in some farm-country areas, deer densities are in the 60-100 deer per square mile range; far in excess of anything we could imagine).

Now WI has some leadership in the recent past that was very opposed to any changes in management practices, they have made progress of late, especially since the CWD outbreak.

But as for their management influencing hunters to pass more young bucks, I don't agree with that idea. From 2008 through 2010, the percent of the buck harvest that was yearlings averaged 51% in WI. That's in comparison to TN over the same time-frame which averaged 41%.
 
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