I'm a terrible shot.

[eastTN270]

I've got a Model 70 in .270 and a Savage 110 in .243 and I can't get a group worth a hoot. I've sit in a chair with the deck for a rest, i've sit on the ground with a huge log for a rest, i've layed in the prone position. I breathe and hold, i squeeze the trigger and let it supprise me. I've done everything that I know to do without going out and buying a shooting table. Its really frustrating. I'm only trying to sight in at 100 yrds. I'm always on paper but never a close group. Now my CVA mzl is a different story, I can get them touching at 100.

 

[Dodge Man]

Have you tried different brand of ammo, different gr ammo? All could make a big difference in you gun. Some guns shoot heavier gr ammo better, some guns shoot different brands of ammo a lot better.

 

[Mossy Oak]

Hey man, when Margaret and I come that way in March I will try and help you out. I have a rest that I use and it really helps me.

 

[Kimberman]

I would take a hard look at mounts and/or scope. Bedding would be next.

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I've got a Model 70 in .270 and a Savage 110 in .243 and I can't get a group worth a hoot. I've sit in a chair with the deck for a rest, i've sit on the ground with a huge log for a rest, i've layed in the prone position. I breathe and hold, i squeeze the trigger and let it supprise me. I've done everything that I know to do without going out and buying a shooting table. Its really frustrating. I'm only trying to sight in at 100 yrds. I'm always on paper but never a close group. Now my CVA mzl is a different story, I can get them touching at 100.

When you are resting the gun on the "deck & log" what part of the gun is touching them ?

If the barrel is touching or you are pulling down on the top of the barrel attempting to steady the gun, you could be effecting the performance of the gun greatly.

FDXX75

 

[SNIPER 7MM]

I would take a hard look at mounts and/or scope. Bedding would be next.

that would be my thoughts as well

 

[whiskey]

Do you have a .22 rifle? If the guns aren't the issue, then it's probably your form. Breathing, trigger squeeze, follow through, etc. A lot of shooting with a .22 will go a long way to help.

Like all the others said, check the mounts, try different ammo. Lock the gun in a shooting vice and make sure it's you and not the gun. Then practice shooting a .22 for thousands of rounds.

 

[Tiny]

You need a Good Rest Front and Rear Support for accuracy testing,ML due there heavier barrel are bit easier to hold tight. Fix the rest then try again before checking things you don't need to yet. JMO

 

[fastbs]

What ammo you tryin?

the rest is my other thought but its been covered.

 

[mr.big]

You need a Good Rest Front and Rear Support for accuracy testing,ML due there heavier barrel are bit easier to hold tight. Fix the rest then try again before checking things you don't need to yet. JMO

x2

 

[DOC1187]

I would take a hard look at mounts and/or scope. Bedding would be next.

that would be my thoughts as well

yep

 

[eastTN270]

Have you tried different brand of ammo, different gr ammo? All could make a big difference in you gun. Some guns shoot heavier gr ammo better, some guns shoot different brands of ammo a lot better.

Shooting hornady in the .270 and coreloks in the .243. I've got some different brands I need to try.

I would take a hard look at mounts and/or scope. Bedding would be next.

Both scopes are Nikon Prostaffs. Just got done putting the bases, rings, and scope on .243 so everything is locked down.

When you are resting the gun on the "deck & log" what part of the gun is touching them ?
FDXX75

Resting the end of the stock on my "rest"

You need a Good Rest Front and Rear Support for accuracy testing,ML due there heavier barrel are bit easier to hold tight. Fix the rest then try again before checking things you don't need to yet. JMO

Good idea, I've been meaning to get some sand bags.

Hey man, when Margaret and I come that way in March I will try and help you out. I have a rest that I use and it really helps me.

That sounds good buddy. Be sure to bring some of your toys too.

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

Have you had someone other than yourself try shooting either weapon and see if there is a noticeable change...............just by changing shooters????

That would be one of the quickest and easiest things to do, don't change anything other than the trigger puller to see............if the weapon reacts the same, you can pretty much rule out shooter.

FDXX75

 

[WTM]

Have you tried different brand of ammo, different gr ammo? All could make a big difference in you gun. Some guns shoot heavier gr ammo better, some guns shoot different brands of ammo a lot better.

Shooting hornady in the .270 and coreloks in the .243. I've got some different brands I need to try.

I would take a hard look at mounts and/or scope. Bedding would be next.

Both scopes are Nikon Prostaffs. Just got done putting the bases, rings, and scope on .243 so everything is locked down.

When you are resting the gun on the "deck & log" what part of the gun is touching them ?
FDXX75

Resting the end of the stock on my "rest"

You need a Good Rest Front and Rear Support for accuracy testing,ML due there heavier barrel are bit easier to hold tight. Fix the rest then try again before checking things you don't need to yet. JMO

Good idea, I've been meaning to get some sand bags.

Hey man, when Margaret and I come that way in March I will try and help you out. I have a rest that I use and it really helps me.

That sounds good buddy. Be sure to bring some of your toys too.

resting the end of the stock on the rest could be the problem, especially with a factory tupperware stock on the savage. those stocks are notorius for slapping the bottom of sporter barrels during fire.
if the scope mounts and action screws are tight, and the barrel is centered in the stock you shouldnt have a problem, except for operator error maybe but i doubt it since you can obviously shoot a muzzleloader.

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I would not rule out shooter error just because he can shoot one of his other guns........if this gun does not fit him properly or his form is off with it, the results will be totally different than that of a gun that may fit him much better.

FDXX75

 

[eastTN270]

I have never claimed to be a marksman, and i've never shot a group like I've seen some guys put up here, but I do expect to be able to up two shots closer that 3" like I've seen lately. I don't expect both rifles to be at fault so I'm sure a lot of it is me. I plan on doing some more shooting this weekend and trying the tips on here. Thanks.

 

[ShamrockIV]

i agree with these guys. i would have someone else shoot the gun and see what happens. then u can start diagnosing from there.

 

[FULLDRAWXX75]

I would not rule out shooter error just because he can shoot one of his other guns........if this gun does not fit him properly or his form is off with it, the results will be totally different than that of a gun that may fit him much better.

FDXX75

I have never claimed to be a marksman, and i've never shot a group like I've seen some guys put up here, but I do expect to be able to up two shots closer that 3" like I've seen lately. I don't expect both rifles to be at fault so I'm sure a lot of it is me. I plan on doing some more shooting this weekend and trying the tips on here. Thanks.

EastTN270,

I apologize if you thought I was calling you a poor marksman, it was not intended that way. I was only responding to the previous comment about being able to shoot the mzlr. without similar issues.

I have said it 100's of times and probably 100's more...........ever single gun (regardless of make/model) shoots totally different from the next and needs to be worked with the achieve "ITs" max. potential...........

FDXX75

 

[Wobblyshot1]

Have you had someone other than yourself try shooting either weapon and see if there is a noticeable change...............just by changing shooters????

That would be one of the quickest and easiest things to do, don't change anything other than the trigger puller to see............if the weapon reacts the same, you can pretty much rule out shooter.

FDXX75

Agreed.....a good range partner is always real handy when you're having problems like this. They might notice too if maybe you've developed a little flinch. Don't take much to really open up a group.

 

[eastTN270]

EastTN270,

I apologize if you thought I was calling you a poor marksman, it was not intended that way. I was only responding to the previous comment about being able to shoot the mzlr. without similar issues.

I have said it 100's of times and probably 100's more...........ever single gun (regardless of make/model) shoots totally different from the next and needs to be worked with the achieve "ITs" max. potential...........

FDXX75[/quote]


Heck no...I know that no one was calling me out. No need to apologize. I was just stating that "I" know I'm no marksman. I've got worlds of improving to do. I hope we get that TNDEER shoot together and semi close to where I live and I will be there.

 

[Boone 58]

I can remember some years ago when it seemed i could shoot lights out, then went thru one season missing badly several times from the mark i had aimed at. Went to the bench and found i was having problems even in a rest. I mistakenly dry fired having not loaded a live round between shots and of course discovered immediatly that i was flinching terribly at the time of ignition......started going thru the mental aspects of the procedure and worked it out. now each season before season opens i go to the range and fire about a box thru the gun to check everything and mostly me................i have had tremendous improvement because of the mental game. let someone else shoot your gun and then go back to the board. Good luck! :)