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Savage and Remington should not even be spoken in the same sentence anymore.

Remington cant hang with savage on accuracy and quality overall anymore.

Savage or your wasting your money. IMO
 
Rockhound said:
Savage and Remington should not even be spoken in the same sentence anymore.

Remington cant hang with savage on accuracy and quality overall anymore.

Savage or your wasting your money. IMO

ehyep
 
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Savage. I love my ML-II, and would love to have a centerfire rifle in .308Win or .338WM to match it. Some complain about it, but I love the accutrigger. I have a Rem700 .270Win that is around 20ish years old that I love, but the new Remingtons, Marlins, and other Freedom Group guns are hit or miss on QC, and way short on pride in craftsmanship.

I hate to say it, but another "bargain gun" to look at that is ugly but getting rave reviews due to engineering is the Ruger American Rifle.
 
I sighted in a buddy's new 700 yesterday with Nikon glass, the very best it will do is 1.5 @ 100. My Savage will clover leaf all day long. I don't think Remington is what it used to be. I'd pick the Savage hands down...
 
I am a remington fan but the sps is the 870 express version of the 700. Of course, you don't mention which savage stainless you are looking at so its hard to say whether the savage you are looking at is better than the remington or not. The axis is a savage but I would not say its better than the remington.
 
JimFromTN said:
I am a remington fan but the sps is the 870 express version of the 700. Of course, you don't mention which savage stainless you are looking at so its hard to say whether the savage you are looking at is better than the remington or not. The axis is a savage but I would not say its better than the remington.
I wouldnt own a Axis
Im looking at a modle 10 or 16, I would like to have stainless,just couse its purdy
:grin:
 
remke said:
JimFromTN said:
I am a remington fan but the sps is the 870 express version of the 700. Of course, you don't mention which savage stainless you are looking at so its hard to say whether the savage you are looking at is better than the remington or not. The axis is a savage but I would not say its better than the remington.
I wouldnt own a Axis
Im looking at a modle 10 or 16, I would like to have stainless,just couse its purdy
:grin:

I agree the axis is junk. I already have a model 10 in 22-250, the model 16 is my next beast. The model 14 is next on my list
 
The SPS Remington is very very very very cheap grade. I would stay far away from them if I were you. Trust me; I know. If you go with Remington, you'd better stick with the upper end rifles they make.

Otherwise, today I would pick a Marlin over a Remington...and an upper end Savage over them.

Best sub $400 gun I've ever shot though is a Marlin X7. Have shot one in 30.06, .243, and .308. All three of them were shooting under half inch groups at 100 with cheap optics and factory loads. I put a better scope on the .308 one and hand loads, and got it down to .250 groups at 100. This is with a non free floated barrel...straight out of the box.
 
I have a NIB Remington 700 XCR on the rack in 25/06, they shoot lights out. It would make for a fine rifle. Between lower end Remmy and Savage 16 in SS I too would pick the Savage. I have sold many Predators and all with superb accuracy, the kind of talk I used to hear about Remingtons of older vintage.

Savage Arms has come further than any other firearms company making what shooters want.
 
I have 2 Rem butt the last 4 I have bought have been savage. And the next one will a savage also.....Savage the best gun on the planet
 
Seems like a lot of guns out there now days, but I tend to mostly trust the used guns more, unless you are spending real money.
 

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