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Simpleman.2

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So has TWRA done away with the WMA harvest reports? I found the hunters toolbox but it only shows by county. I always liked checking in on WMAs I hunt throughout the season to see what all had been killed. I hope they didn't get rid of it.


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I don't know what the deal is. The turkey harvest numbers were so jacked up I'm guessing they took down all the options until someone gets it ironed out


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catman529":200jl4ta said:
I don't know what the deal is. The turkey harvest numbers were so jacked up I'm guessing they took down all the options until someone gets it ironed out


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I hope they bring it back.


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Simpleman.2":3uz5eyse said:
I hope they bring it back.
Agreed, like the majority of other State Resource Agencies have. It is a simple database that you query to get the latest data available. BGG (Daryl) had it about perfected when he was in charge, but now we have went backwards 20 years. Very frustrating to say the least. It will definitely be a comment of mine to TWRA and TFWC when comments are accepted.
 
When the general public was given access to this "toolbox",
wasn't it stated to be the OFFICIAL database for TWRA's harvest data?
I'm probably confused, but was thinking that to be the case.
 
Yea im pretty bummed about where it is now. I used it to keep up with the kills on the public i hunted and ised it to narrow down the wmas id like to target.
 
^^^^That is likely true since that is about the time it went to crap. With that said, I can't imagine it would take much to mine the data and make if readily available like the majority of other states do. I suspect a programmer that understands database structure and database language could make it happen pretty easily.
 
Such a great resource for me last year. I keep checking it daily to see if the old format with all the data it used to show will magically reappear.


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I called last week and spoke with the lady over the department that oversees the Hunters Toolbox. She told me that the county graph portion was all that was currently working due to available manpower and that they could not keep knowledgeable people working in that department due to the low pay scale. Bottom line—TWRA evidently doesn't deem that information to be be a priority for us as hunters/license holders.
 
Yeah...a little late for me this year, but it is a start.

The agency has to get and keep their online resources working well. 2020 is days away. I visit their website more than I visit a WMA or shooting range. My .2 cents.
 
A few thoughts on the Hunter's Toolbox situation:
1. Apparently, when they changed license system vendors, it was not a great match for the new data system. And, compared with getting the license sales and quota hunt parts "right", it would have a low priority. I think since any issues have been worked out on those, it may be something that is being worked on as they can get to it with all of the other IT needs. I have been told that it is being worked on among other priorities.

2. The comment concerning the turnover in the IT division is a real issue. The pay scale for the State of TN compared with the private sector is LOW. When you have companies such as Amazon and others heavily recruiting IT people in the Nashville area, it is no surprise that qualified folks will leave for a better paying job. TWRA doesn't have the ability to just pay their people more. The pay scales are set by other state departments, and it is a MAJOR deal to make changes in job descriptions and pay. I dealt with that issue first hand when I was working over there.

3."IF" the hunter toolbox is a major deal from a multitude of folks, TWRA needs to hear from them so work on that project can be elevated in priority. While I KNOW it is a major deal for some folks on this site, my gut feeling is that it isn't that important to the majority of hunters. I know that even though I'm still into deer hunting in a major way, I can probably count on one hand the number of times I used it for anything. If my take on it represents the majority, then it is more than likely a "niceity" rather than a major priority, and should be treated as such among IT priorities. Time and dollars are limited for the agency, and they need to spend it in ways to benefit the majority of their license buyers. On the other hand, if it is something that is wanted by the majority of our big game hunters and folks like me are in the minority, then the agency needs to hear from that majority.

4. Over several decades of working with TWRA, I repeatedly saw first hand that "the squeaky wheel gets greased". When various groups make a bunch of noise about something, then it gets elevated in priority. Bitching on social media may get a little attention, but usually not enough. If you truly care about the issue, let your Commissioners know. Let TWRA know through emails and letters. If it is a major issue for enough folks, my guess is that fixing it will be elevated up over other priorities.
 
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