How long to wait? (pics)

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Yeah, another of those threads...

Appeared to be a good center chest, broadside, on a mature doe, with a 125gr Spitfire.
But, there wasn't a lot of penetration and when she ran I could clearly see a lot of fletched shaft sticking out. The arrow dropped off at about 30yds and she ran.
I waited 30 minutes while a buck chased more does and then got down. Found shaft broken, gray hair and what appeared to be a little fat globule. I left and waited another 2 hours and came back. First blood (photo) at about 50 yds from shot, steady drops and then another pool at 70yds. At this point a deer moved out of the heavy brush the blood was leading to, so I backed out.
I am thinking this shot might have been a little low, although the deer here are very fat. Still not sure about the lack of penetration.
Advice on how long should I give her?





 
Could it have been a shoulder blade shot? And the blood dripped down the shaft? From what I can tell from the pics it doesnt look like lung blood and with not much penetration and a clean break. If thats the case ive seen deer make full recoveries from shoulder shots. Sorry to hear and I do hope you find her. Hopefully someone else will post with better info. But id say maybe wait another two hours and see what the trail has to show. Good luck!
 
The ultra fat-encased doe I heart-shot last year with a 150 grain Nosler at 3000 fps ran at least 100 yards and left near zero blood. Through and through but the fat closed up the wound. Your doe is dead.
 
To me, it looks like that arrow had plenty of penetration. It probably hit a bone on the far side and bounced back, causing it to appear like it didn't penetrate enough. Dead deer. Second pic looks like lung blood, but hard to tell on my Kindle.
 
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No luck.
Blood continued with a couple more large pools before stopping at about 150 yards. I fanned out and started searching back and forth with no further sightings of blood.
This area is swampy and crisscrossed with small streams in a former clearcut, so trails are tunnels of briars.
I'll be back out in the morning.
 
Man... Sorry you haven't found her yet. Good luck. Worst case scenario I may have been a leg hit. Update us tomorrow.
 
hmm, blood looks pretty good, but I have lost shots in that area of the deer which caught too much fatty material and no major artery. I hope you find her.
 
Too bad you didn't find it.


weatherby man":3s2dfnsn said:
How can you have a center chest 'broadside'? That is contradictory isn't it?
Not really. If you think of a deer's chest as a cube, it would have 6 centers. Three sides of which you couldn't realistically shoot. To reach the rear side, you would have to shoot through the bung hole, the top would have to be straight down through the back, and the bottom would have to be a straight up shot; none of which are very realistic. However, you can realistically shoot "center chest" from either of the sides or head on.
 
I think most folks, think of center of the chest as a deer facing you head on, at least that's the way I think of it


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easy45":29drg86e said:
I think most folks, think of center of the chest as a deer facing you head on, at least that's the way I think of it


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That's what I think too and was confused about it. Either way hope he finds it. I lost a good one this year that I shot facing me in the chest and it bled like crazy.
 
Update (not good):
Was out this morning, not near as much deer activity as yesterday. Only a spike. Not bad considering how much tramping around I did yesterday right in their bedding area.
Never found more blood, no other signs, and of course no body. Walked all the creek banks, checked the blow downs and briar thickets. Realistically, it is so thick in there (I brought pruners to cut vines),she could have bedded down deep and not visible.
No crows or vultures.
BUT, on the way back out, only 30yds behind my stand and nowhere near she had been, I found piles of white belly fur and small slivers of skin/fat. (Hard to see in photo, but that is white hair scattered everywhere) Along with a good sized wad of new duct tape.
Not sure what to make of it, but a deer was obviously there (and a person).I'm the only person authorized to hunt on this property. Seemed fresh, but no sign of a former gutpile or dragging from coyotes.
This farm is jinxed for me! If something weird is going to happen, it will happen here.

Oh, and as for ""center chest broadside", how about just good ol doublelung, right behind the heart?.


 
What is irritating is it was only a 20yd shot, she was unaware and standing stone still!
I have Lumenocks and it sure looked like that arrow was in the double lung territory, BUT, it didn't have the normal pass-through and the shaft had only 12"on blood on it when it fell out.
I'm baffled where the heck she went to.
The longest I've ever had a deer run from an arrow hit was about 80yds and I could see and hear the crash. Most are in the 20yd to 30yd distance before dropping.
 
It's archery and weird stuff happens I guess. But the duct tape is weird. Someone might have stolen your doe or something but I don't get the duct tape or lack of gut pile. Just kind of strange


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catman529":2egy0bc2 said:
It's archery and weird stuff happens I guess. But the duct tape is weird. Someone might have stolen your doe or something but I don't get the duct tape or lack of gut pile. Just kind of strange


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Agreed, the duct tape throw every thing off to me. I would agree seems someone may have stole your doe. I'd look real good for drag marks.
 
weatherby man":2ar1iglr said:
Broadside means the target/animal is perpendicular to you. If the chest is facing you the deer cannot be broadside.
he hit her in the secondary sidewards chesterly region, dont argue with science. everyone knows that. in reality, we can't be sure where he hit her because he didn't recover her. All that matters now is why in the heck there is a wad of duct tape and some fur next to his stand.
 

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