How does twra make a decision on were to stop a unit in my unit it calls for 3 doe's a day from archery on, thats roughly 90 days so 270 deer for for 1 person. Where I live we dont have that kind of herd so just curious how the set the bag limits. Or maybe they just won't to kill the all.
How do they make a decision
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Good question. My area absolutely can't handle that at all.
MickThompson
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Nobody in the history of ever has even come close to that
Savage
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It's not how many you can kill, but how many can you do something with.
deerhunter10
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Not sure on the boundaries. But Noone is shooting that. Just opportunity is all. We have places where it can handle a lot of does killed and some places it can't. But I enjoy it so when we do kill does we can do it somewhat efficiently.
MickThompson
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Exactly. Can't trump the freezer carrying capacity
My county is not unit L but they upped the antlerless opportunities here and I know for a fact that this is a horrible idea.
Biggun4214
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New biologists new ideas, Polk County is the same unit as Hawkins and Sullivan.
Good, bad, or indifferent without TWRA there would be 95 different seasons that would change frequently.
Good, bad, or indifferent without TWRA there would be 95 different seasons that would change frequently.
BSK
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I would assume it is the Regional Manager that makes that decision.
Harold Money jr
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It's the same answer as always. The biologists and program managers from TWRA propose items for the commission sometimes at the commissions request. The commission votes on what they want to happen. Nothing or very near nothing happens in state wildlife that doesn't go through the commissions hands.
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All we can do is manage ourselves and not worry about the rest of it within the law. Youll be much happier when you forget about everyone else
People killing 270 deer a year is r
I wouldn't over analyze it too much. Just to look at it in the big picture, hunters are still killing more bucks than antlerless in nearly all Unit L counties last time I checked. And that's with a 2-buck limit.
I wouldn't over analyze it too much. Just to look at it in the big picture, hunters are still killing more bucks than antlerless in nearly all Unit L counties last time I checked. And that's with a 2-buck limit.
The county I live in is 1/3rd public land. Every year there is hunters out of Knoxville,crossville,and many other county's that hit that plublic land and do drives shooting all they can now with 3 a day that will finish off the rest of the herd that's done been hit hard
kentuckylakebuck1
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ive said it for years and I'll say it again! TWRA is out for the money, someone or some company is paying the TWRA for the liberal limits and depredation permits! there is no way on gods green earth the TWRA is trying the "kill em all" approach on game that provides them with a job, unless something or someone is pushing the "kill em all" agenda through the back door into the green jeans bank accounts!! change my mind, please! cause right now I say F K THE TWRA!
I'm much more concerned with the amount of deer being slaughtered on summer nights then I am hunters killing too many.
That's the gist of it. The wildlife resources ultimately belong to us, and TWRA merely manages it. Regardless of regulations it's our own personal responsibility to practice good conservation. I live in unit-L and hunt numerous locations. Some of those spots could use some serious thinning, while other spots have a much more fragile herd where killing a few does could significantly hinder future hunting. TWRA cannot and should not manage at such a micro level. That's our responsibility as hunters.
The 3 doe/day limit in unit-L reasonably allows a hunter such as my self to spend a few days thinning the herd on a farm that is overrun with deer. And some farms need it. It is not a suggestion or challenge to see if I can kill 270 deer in one season.
Don't have to come close to that to decimate the herd in an area.
It's fairly obvious there is a goal to not have many deer left to hunt when you see what's going on with these changes. Probably a "slow the spread" tactic. Where have we heard that before 
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That's the gist of it. The wildlife resources ultimately belong to us, and TWRA merely manages it. Regardless of regulations it's our own personal responsibility to practice good conservation. I live in unit-L and hunt numerous locations. Some of those spots could use some serious thinning, while other spots have a much more fragile herd where killing a few does could significantly hinder future hunting. TWRA cannot and should not manage at such a micro level. That's our responsibility as hunters.
The 3 doe/day limit in unit-L reasonably allows a hunter such as my self to spend a few days thinning the herd on a farm that is overrun with deer. And some farms need it. It is not a suggestion or challenge to see if I can kill 270 deer in one season.
The problem is those regs go for public land also. Which most of the public is same as statewide regs. That is where what I do as a hunter has almost zero effect on the slaughter that will take place. I've been hunting the same public places for many years in now unit 6. I can tell you it will have an ill effect on the doe's that are on these lands. Hunting is already tough over this way. And even more doe's killed will not have a positive outcome. It will only get even tougher. An extra 2 doe's a year per hunter. What will happen is they will ruin any future hunters. Taking a kid to these places now is hard enough. Lessen the herd even more and the TWRA might as well shoot itself in the foot. And kiss the deer population goodbye.
The 3 doe/day limit in unit-L reasonably allows a hunter such as my self to spend a few days thinning the herd on a farm that is overrun with deer. And some farms need it. It is not a suggestion or challenge to see if I can kill 270 deer in one season.
The problem is those regs go for public land also. Which most of the public is same as statewide regs. That is where what I do as a hunter has almost zero effect on the slaughter that will take place. I've been hunting the same public places for many years in now unit 6. I can tell you it will have an ill effect on the doe's that are on these lands. Hunting is already tough over this way. And even more doe's killed will not have a positive outcome. It will only get even tougher. An extra 2 doe's a year per hunter. What will happen is they will ruin any future hunters. Taking a kid to these places now is hard enough. Lessen the herd even more and the TWRA might as well shoot itself in the foot. And kiss the deer population goodbye.
You know I've bashed some of the things TWRA officers have done and I think it was justifiable in doing so but over all I think they've done a good job . Gotta give flowers while they are alive. But one thing really bothers is these depredation permits . Eliminating them I understand is needed for the farmer but wasting them seems sacrilegious to me being a hunter. Waste not want not was was what I was always told and I know the homeless and other people feeding the less fortunate these deer could be very beneficial IMHO.
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Laughable.
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Maybe. Here where I live 3 a day they will kill.
They'll shoot every deer they can get sights on. This area can't handle that.
Urban_Hunter
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It's actually me. And buckle up buttercup, next year I'm changing it to 4/day in unit L, and double that for A, B, C, D
The liberal harvest limits are meant to reduce the deer per mile and help slow the spread of CWD, that's about the only way to slow the spread that they have to work with, if they didn't do anything it's hard to say how fast it would spread and at this time 100% of the deer that get it die, folks praying and saying nature will cure it have more faith than I do lol.
From the meetings that I watched ,the biologist would keep bringing up to the commission and used unit CWD as an example that regardless of what they set the limit to or any incentives they had the average deer per person stay right around 2 I believe is what the number was and that was through out the state. It goes back to most people aren't really going to take more than what they can use, sure you have some people that try to limit out every year but most people do not.
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Thats just it, What are you gonna do about "they", all we can control is ourselves and not worry about the rest of it. Since we cant vote or a have virtually any voice whatsoever in twra decisions , the best thing we can do is worry about governing ourselves and forget the rest. Im not trying to single you out recurve, please dont take it that way, just explaining the only way ive come back to my sanity in deer hunting.
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All I know is that in Morgan county the hunting has slowly gotten worse and deer numbers have declined drastically. Just look at the harvest numbers from the early 2000's to now. And that's with increased opportunities. And now TWRA is upping the bag limit again. If the hunting gets much worse I will just sell our land and buy land in KY or Ohio.
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themanpcl
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last year one of the processors i used was expecting a bunch from the depredation tags and he was going to process them...not sure if that would be feasible but hunters for the hungry would be a great way to use the meat....
