GodGunAndCountry
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What is the minimum acres you need? 5 acres? 50 acres?
I see, thank you for you very helpful post. This got me to the right directionFor me it would depend on the property. Habitat features and surrounding properties are key. A small 5 acre thick woodlot surrounded by hundreds of acres of ag that has nobody else hunting would be worth far more to me than 50 acres of open timber surrounded by properties with other other hunters. This is why very large acreage leases are so popular.
When somebody leases a property, it's largely because they want a piece of ground they can hunt without having to compete with other hunters. If it's a big enough lease there will likely be multiple people sharing the lease to offset cost, with a certain number of acres per hunter ratio. That in itself can become an issue because as lease membership grows, you edge closer & closer to negating the premise of having a lease in the first place. I'd rather hunt public land for free than to pay part of a 5000 acre lease I share with 9 other guys. But if I could singly lease a small acreage lot that had the right habitat features, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But those don't exist that I'm aware of. Most every lease I've ever seen was large acreage.
I've always thought that if small property owners offered their land up for lease, they'd do well. There are countless hunters who'd love to lease ground but either don't have the financial ability to pay for a large piece, don't have an in with a group to cooperatively lease a big place, or else aren't interested in sharing a property with other hunters. What the lease market lacks, IMO, is small property leases that would be affordable enough to market to individuals.
I see, thank you for you very helpful post. This got me to the right direction
My issue is that it seems many hunters want exclusivity, I hunt my little place and usually get the number of deer I want. I haven't got any bruisers, well at least haven't seen any in my scope, but have never measured a single deer, just weigh them on the hoof. I looked into the possibility of leasing but exclusivity , liability and a few other factors just didn't seem like it was something I wanted to fool with.For me it would depend on the property. Habitat features and surrounding properties are key. A small 5 acre thick woodlot surrounded by hundreds of acres of ag that has nobody else hunting would be worth far more to me than 50 acres of open timber surrounded by properties with other other hunters. This is why very large acreage leases are so popular.
When somebody leases a property, it's largely because they want a piece of ground they can hunt without having to compete with other hunters. If it's a big enough lease there will likely be multiple people sharing the lease to offset cost, with a certain number of acres per hunter ratio. That in itself can become an issue because as lease membership grows, you edge closer & closer to negating the premise of having a lease in the first place. I'd rather hunt public land for free than to pay part of a 5000 acre lease I share with 9 other guys. But if I could singly lease a small acreage lot that had the right habitat features, I'd do it in a heartbeat. But those don't exist that I'm aware of. Most every lease I've ever seen was large acreage.
I've always thought that if small property owners offered their land up for lease, they'd do well. There are countless hunters who'd love to lease ground but either don't have the financial ability to pay for a large piece, don't have an in with a group to cooperatively lease a big place, or else aren't interested in sharing a property with other hunters. What the lease market lacks, IMO, is small property leases that would be affordable enough to market to individuals.
It seems like Nashville area is harder, maybe around Johnson city is better where my in law isI use to lease 80 acres from bowater, I was also on a 4000acre lease for 10 years, I enjoyed the smaller lease much more than I did the large one, only three of us hunted the small lease where there was 70 on the big one.I only hunt public now, too much good public land around you can hunt for free
That is fair take on this , I appreciated itIf you don't have experience with leases, please know there can be some heartache involved if the landowner makes changes (after years of lessees investing in the property). Timber companies for example are in the business of making money and if that means clearcutting or selling holdings that's exactly what they do. Landowner deciding after a year of leasing to just let family hunt or selling the property...same thing. And look out for sub-leases; folks that lease for $5/ac and turn right around and lease it to you for $10/ac. You gotta do your homework or could be left with not-so-great a leasing experience. Ask lots of questions and GET IT IN WRITING.
Johnson city is non existent. Tons of farmland being gobbled up to make subdivisions for Yankees to move into. For prices locals couldn't begin to pay.It seems like Nashville area is harder, maybe around Johnson city is better where my in law is
That is true!! I was wonder why it is almost as expensive as nashvilleJohnson city is non existent. Tons of farmland being gobbled up to make subdivisions for Yankees to move into. For prices locals couldn't begin to pay.
Do have a range or go shot on your land. I was wonder if active target shoot will scare away animal.I own 10.2 acres. I have killed 63 deer on it since I bought it in 1991. I have also been on leases with thousands of acres over the years and probably taken less than 10 off the leases. Small property in the right spot is a goldmine.
I not only shoot on it, I have lived on it for 19 years. Have dogs and chickens too. I fenced and live on the front 1/3 of the property. The deer have the rest to roam on.Do have a range or go shot on your land. I was wonder if active target shoot will scare away animal.
My issue is that it seems many hunters want exclusivity, I hunt my little place and usually get the number of deer I want. I haven't got any bruisers, well at least haven't seen any in my scope, but have never measured a single deer, just weigh them on the hoof. I looked into the possibility of leasing but exclusivity , liability and a few other factors just didn't seem like it was something I wanted to fool with.
Do you think you can hunt on 5 acres?Yeah there's expense involved for sure to have exclusivity. That's why people split the cost with others, which sacrifices the exclusivity. It's a conundrum. That's why I think there's room in the lease market for tiny, individual leases that would be affordable for one person. Lots of folks own small properties. I'd think if they knew they could make a little money from unused acreage, they'd do it.
Of course you can hunt on 5 acres.Do you think you can hunt on 5 acres?
Do you think you can hunt on 5 acres?
That may be a good strategy for landowners who don't have the ability or desire to hunt anymore. Bring in a little income and give you a new audience to chew the fat with.Yeah there's expense involved for sure to have exclusivity. That's why people split the cost with others, which sacrifices the exclusivity. It's a conundrum. That's why I think there's room in the lease market for tiny, individual leases that would be affordable for one person. Lots of folks own small properties. I'd think if they knew they could make a little money from unused acreage, they'd do it.
That may be a good strategy for landowners who don't have the ability or desire to hunt anymore. Bring in a little income and give you a new audience to chew the fat with.