Hire a guide they said...

[agelessssone]

One Guide, two experienced customers, 7 hours fishing KY Lake, total of 2 bass.
One fish 14", the other 12".
Fished ledges and humps.
When I get on a boat and I see decades old 9" graphs front and console I get apprehensive.
Never saw what appeared to be fish on a screen, guide never said, "there are the fish".
Seems we fished his spots from yesteryear with no regards of where they were today.
Being a guide myself, and having the latest electronics, in today's age I find it unfathomable that one would "guide" without being able to find/see fish.
To put customers blindly casting in a "direction " because "the fish should be there" is beyond my comprehension.
When we fished the first roadbed for 90 minutes with no one getting bit, I figured our trip was wasted. Then we moved 300 yds and fished a hump for an hour with no bites, I knew we were screwed.
Having a boat and calling yourself a guide don't make it so.
Also, when there was not ONE MINUTE that the guide wasn't talking.....

 

[BigCityBubba]

Who was the guide and where were you fishing out of?

 

[agelessssone]

Fished out of Kenlake and downstream to Smith Bay
Prefer to not out the guide on social media.

 

[Tn Joe]

Did you do any research on the guide before booking a trip with him?

 

[Rebels20]

Fished out of Kenlake and downstream to Smith Bay
Prefer to not out the guide on social media.

whats the point of the post then? I wouldn't want to use that guy if he is as bad as you say. May save someone else the money down the road?

 

[agelessssone]

Did you do any research on the guide before booking a trip with him?

Just watched his videos

 

[agelessssone]

And he had 4.8 stars on a 5 star scale on the reviews

 

[Spurhunter]

Also, when there was not ONE MINUTE that the guide wasn't talking.....

One reason I couldn't fish all day with a stranger. I like the peace and quiet.

 

[TX300mag]

I think it would be fair to leave a professional, honest review

 

[agelessssone]

I'd hate to leave a bad review, this may be his only means of income.
If anyone needs his name, I'll only give it in a private message

 

[Carlos Viagra]

Lemme guess... yall were Striper fishing?

 

[Soft Talker]

So what if he would have had the latest and greatest bottom machine and marked fish everywhere. If the fish still would not have ate, would it be his fault. Either way, one ain't much of a "guide" if he has to rely on high tech electronics to find fish.

 

[Setterman]

So what if he would have had the latest and greatest bottom machine and marked fish everywhere. If the fish still would not have ate, would it be his fault. Either way, one ain't much of a "guide" if he has to rely on high tech electronics to find fish.

I couldn't agree more, and anymore it's kind of sad that so many rely on electronics to have success.

As a retired guide some days just arent meant to be, no matter what.

Also, as a guide your job in part is to entertain your clients, especially if it's a bad day fishing. If you wanted a quiet guide you should've stated such, people aren't mind readers

 

[Spurhunter]

So what if he would have had the latest and greatest bottom machine and marked fish everywhere. If the fish still would not have ate, would it be his fault.

No. You can't make them eat, but with today's electronics there is no excuse for a "guide" to not put you on fish.

 

[Spurhunter]

Either way, one ain't much of a "guide" if he has to rely on high tech electronics to find fish.

How would you find bass on Kentucky Lake in the summer when most of them are offshore and deep without electronics? Either you don't fish for bass or you just beat the banks hoping to get lucky. I don't know any bass fishermen that are going to pay a guide to take them bank beating in July catching dinks.

 

[Hduke86]

@RUGER doesnt charge much for his panfish clinics.

 

[Soft Talker]

How would you find bass on Kentucky Lake in the summer when most of them are offshore and deep without electronics? Either you don't fish for bass or you just beat the banks hoping to get lucky. I don't know any bass fishermen that are going to pay a guide to take them bank beating in July catching dinks.

And here I thought you were a "fisherman"

 

[agelessssone]

Lemme guess... yall were Striper fishing?

Bass fishing

 

[RUGER]

I have been on a few guided trips.
One was "ok" most were a disppointment and a couple made me want to throw the pos out of the boat.
Unless they are associated with Scenic City Fishing, I won't go on another one.

 

[Spurhunter]

And here I thought you were a "fisherman"

You really should start fishing professional bass tournaments since you can find fish anytime with no electronics. You would be a megasuperstar and make millions! It's amazing that you are the best turkey hunter in the world AND best fisherman in the world! Or maybe you are just an internet blowhorn eating hotpockets in your parents' basement claiming to be the greatest at everything when you've never done anything. Fess up Warren. Which is it? I'd bet on the latter.

 

[Spurhunter]

I have been on a few guided trips.
One was "ok" most were a disppointment and a couple made me want to throw the pos out of the boat.
Unless they are associated with Scenic City Fishing, I won't go on another one.

Just pay Warren to take you fishing. Any lake, any time, any species, no electronics. He just sticks his finger in the water and the fish gods tell him where to go and catch the lunkers! He is The Great Fish Whisperer as well as The Great Turkey Whisperer!

 

[agelessssone]

I have been on a few guided trips.
One was "ok" most were a disppointment and a couple made me want to throw the pos out of the boat.
Unless they are associated with Scenic City Fishing, I won't go on another one.

I've been with Scenic City twice, good guides Ben Hayes and Scott Lillie.
Going again in August, forgot the guides name.
Great outfit, great guides.

 

[BigCityBubba]

For ledge fishing, you have to have electronics to have any real success but you don't need the latest and greatest. You have to at least be able to find the ledge. People have successfully fished ledges long before the latest and greatest was even a concept. To me, a good guide will bust his backside trying to put his clients on fish, not on how up to date his boat and electronics are. He will put his time in before he takes clients out to make sure he is putting them on the best spots. I have fished with guides out of jon boats who had no electronics at all that put me on plenty of fish and I had a great time. I had a saltwater guide down in crystal river recently who worked harder than any guide I have ever been with and we didn't catch anything. He gave us 2 extra hours for free just trying to put us on fish when it was hot and miserable. Not only did we give him a great tip but we went out with him the next day and my buddy went out recently with him when he was back down in the area. My buddy will use him again when his brother is down there with him. On the flip side, I have had guides that were so lazy and didn't concern themselves with putting us on fish that they didn't get a tip and were given a terrible reviews.

 

[agelessssone]

So what if he would have had the latest and greatest bottom machine and marked fish everywhere. If the fish still would not have ate, would it be his fault. Either way, one ain't much of a "guide" if he has to rely on high tech electronics to find fish.

Electronics can help you find the fish, and granted, if they aren't going to eat, they won't.
But, being able to see the fish to at least know you are in the right place is a big factor in letting the client know you have him ON fish.
When you can watch fish react to your bait you have the confidence/hope that you can catch a fish.
When you are blind casting to open water with no indication a fish should be there, kinda disheartening.

 

[MrJim43]

Brother and I fished Ky Lake back in the 70's and 80's with little or no electronic. We did have a Hummingbird depth finder. We fished Drop offs, old creek channels and flats with stumps.Thats how we would fish. Fished the big Pond for many years and have pictures to assure you we caught fish. Remember this was before the intro of the Florida strain bass hybrids and such. We would catch few good fish in the 6 to 7 pound class and every once in a while a good 8lb one. We have fished on days with little or no fish were caught and days we culled from start to finish. I guess now it's a lot different. Have not fished much since the mid 90's. The old big Pond has changed and so have the fishing clients. Best of luck to all who fish the BigPond

 

[Jon]

Daddy always told me that's why they call it fishing and not catching.

 

[BigCityBubba]

I have been on a few guided trips.
One was "ok" most were a disppointment and a couple made me want to throw the pos out of the boat.
Unless they are associated with Scenic City Fishing, I won't go on another one.

When it comes to freshwater, I only get guides when I want to learn something. Last month, I went to lake Glenville for a week. It was a gin clear mountain lake. I wanted to know how to catch fish on that lake so I got a guide. I only caught two fish with the guide because of the weather but it was well worth it because I ended up having a fantastic day when it finally stopped raining and I got out on the water. The locals told me it was a very difficult lake to fish and that I should give it up and trout fish in some of the local streams. I also got a guide once on Ky Lake to learn ledge fishing. We caught fish and had a good time. I have gotten a guide on chickamauga lake with good success. I went to Guntersville for a week one time and regret to this day that I did not get a guide the first day I was there. We were able to catch fish but had I gone out with a guide, it would have been much better,

 

[BigCityBubba]

Brother and I fished Ky Lake back in the 70's and 80's with little or no electronic. We did have a Hummingbird depth finder. We fished Drop offs, old creek channels and flats with stumps.Thats how we would fish. Fished the big Pond for many years and have pictures to assure you we caught fish. Remember this was before the intro of the Florida strain bass hybrids and such. We would catch few good fish in the 6 to 7 pound class and every once in a while a good 8lb one. We have fished on days with little or no fish were caught and days we culled from start to finish. I guess now it's a lot different. Have not fished much since the mid 90's. The old big Pond has changed and so have the fishing clients. Best of luck to all who fish the BigPond

The fishing has changed allot since the asian carp invasion. I have been fishing Ky Lake since the 80's and I have no idea how to catch fish on that lake anymore.

 

[Spurhunter]

Amazing how these threads go off topic. Nobody said fish were never caught before electronics. The topic was about a guide on Kentucky Lake getting paid to put someone on fish in July, fishing offshore and he didn't have the best tools available on his boat to offer his clients a better chance of success.

 

[Soft Talker]

You really should start fishing professional bass tournaments since you can find fish anytime with no electronics. You would be a megasuperstar and make millions! It's amazing that you are the best turkey hunter in the world AND best fisherman in the world! Or maybe you are just an internet blowhorn eating hotpockets in your parents' basement claiming to be the greatest at everything when you've never done anything. Fess up Warren. Which is it? I'd bet on the latter.

Although I have made a lot of money selling bait to them in my youth, I am not big on tournaments or tournament guys, fresh or salt water. Proved myself as a fisherman early in my life, by making a living selling them.