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I've had plenty of the shotguns, but are the rifles worth anything? My wife has been talking about getting another .243 forever. I see alot more people getting them now days, but I figured it was the low price tag more than performance. I know the trigger on my shotgun was terrible.

What do yall think about them? Are they worth 275 bucks?
 
They are not bad for the $$$, but for close to the same money you could have a Stevens 200 rifle or a Marlin XS7 or a number of much better used guns.
 
Yeah I know, she's just hooked on one of these cause it was her first rifle. We've already shot the Marlin alot. It's a great shooting gun. She just likes something about them single shots. Iuno
 
I use to have servile of em. But figgered out they can be hard to keep shooting they are very finkey on such thinks as the right ammo how to hold em then when you think you have em figgered out the change. Get a good bolt gun and don't look back.
 
ShaneHallum said:
I've had plenty of the shotguns, but are the rifles worth anything? My wife has been talking about getting another .243 forever. I see alot more people getting them now days, but I figured it was the low price tag more than performance. I know the trigger on my shotgun was terrible.

What do yall think about them? Are they worth 275 bucks?

I think they are.I have several of them from 243 to 3006,put over 2000 rounds thru the 243 without a hiccup.killed many deer, hogs and bear without a follow up shot.I would put any H R I own against any of my high priced sniper guns..because they are a lower price dont mean anything..
 
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My son and brother each own a 25/06 H&R with the laminated stocks. Both have killed deer, and both are very accurate. I would highly recommend them to anyone that needs a good setup for under 300 bucks. Could be more depending on your optic choice.
 
they have several factor working against them that make them inherantly inaccurate- 2 piece stock, ulta slow lock times, a hammer fall, and a 7 pound trigger just to name a few. spend an extra hundred dollar bill and get a bolt gun or spend 2 or 3 extra dollar bills and get a good bolt gun. encores have the same factors working against them as well.
 
You may be able to find a used Ruger #1 or Encore, I am a bolt guy but I do like my Encore. Those would be about the only single shots that would have good resale value if you decide to sell one.
 
I own 2. One is a 7-08 youth that i lopped another inch off the stock. With a majorly reduced load it is a tack driver by my 8yr old daughter. This will be her third year shooting it. The other is a 25-06. I had a problem with the action opening when fired on the 25-06 but it was fixed and returned in 11 days by H&R. I specifically told them to fix the gun and not replace it because it shoots unbelievable groups with Federal 100gr ballistic tips. I haven't even worked on a hand load for the 25-06 because there is nothing I can do to improve on the Fed. factory load out of my gun. No more problems out of either.
 
I have 2 youth models that are excellent little rifles that my sons hunt with...paid $200 for one used, and won the other at a NWTF banquet. both have decent triggers. if i was getting it for an adult I might go for the stevens bolt rifle for just a very few dollars more
 
I've had 2 H&R's, a 30-06 and a .243, the 06 shot great (but needed a trigger job in a serious bad way), I could shoot beer cans at 400 yards on a regular basis, and after a while the accuracy left the gun, could have been sevral reasons.

The second was the .243, it was trouble from day one (2nd hand gun), it would break open after a round was fired from it, or it would misfire.
you could hold the gun up to a light and wiggle the sock and forearm and see the light shine thru the barrel/reciver, ther was just enuff slop between them that the fireing pin couldnt make propper contact with the primer hence the misfire.
The breaking open was caused by the slack also, just enuff slack that the locking mechanisam wasnt tight enuff to work correctly.
I solved these problems with a piece of shim stock wrapped around the hinge pin (what the barrel pivots on), it fixed it but I dint like the idea of it.
After a lot of diggin around what I found out was when the round fires all the presure is put on the hinge pin, an immence amout of presure at that, and (if I remember what I read)the pin can bend ever so slightly and cause the gap between the barrel/reciever, just a few thousanths of a inch can create accuracy problems, if ther is room for the case to move backwards at the firing of the round its aint gonna be accurate.
A bolt gun locks up good and tite, no room for the cartrige to "back up" when fired, hence it makes it more accurate, but I love a single shot rifle myself, but the next one mite be a Ruger no1.
Just say'n. (because a unaccurate gun just stinks, aint fit to build a fire out of)
 
I have owned 2. One was a Ultra Varminter in 25-06 with the 26" bull barrel. This was the most accurate rifle I have ever shot. It outshot every rifle I ever shot "against". Mild recoil and that was with factory loads. God knows how great it would have been with handloads and a chance to get the "right" recipe!
I also had a H&R in a 35 whelen. The headspace was too long in the gun and gun would fire maybe one outta every 10 shots. Customer service was excellent and they told me to get a gunsmith to fax them a copy of the bill stating what was wrong and they would be happy to replace the gun or refund my purchase price. I opted for the money.

I see nothing wrong with'em. Especially considering what a brand new Thompson center (I wanna be like a tv hunter) single shot cost vs. the H&R. Even with the problems I had with one of'em, I would'nt hesitate to own another one.
 
I had one with the unexpected break open as well. It was a 16 guage shotgun I used for squirrel hunting and deer hunting when I was a kid.

It would scare the heck out of you when aiming up into a tree at a squirrel, take the shot, and get hit in the forehead by the empty being ejected!
 
All this info kinda makes me think twice about them. Encores just seem so overpriced to me. I've had a Ruger #1 in .223 before and it was a great gun. But they are expensive too.

I may read up on this CVA Scout.
 
And I thought it was only my wife that wasnt happy unless she got what she wanted.

I'm not hate'n on the handi rifles dont get me wrong, I've thought about buy'n another one brand new just to give them a honest chance, I love the way they carry and the simplicity.

Check out gunownersclub.com, thers always handi rifles on ther for sale, last week ther was a 22-250 for $200 bucks, also a 30-06 for the same price. if she had her heart set on one and didnt like it she could always sell it, probably wouldnt be hard to get rid of, that gun has a lotta fans.

Also checkout graybeardoutdoors.com, they have a thread dedicated to the handi rifle and thers a lotta good info on them ther, plenty of guys who have figured out how to tune and tweek these little guns, them boys love them some handi rifles sure nuff.
 
The reason behind getting one of these rifles is because it was her first rifle. She had one in 22-250 and .243

Getting a bolt gun would be my first choice. But it's her and she wants one like she had in the past.
 

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