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<blockquote data-quote="TheLBLman" data-source="post: 5255672" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>Many areas historically simultaneously had both good turkey, grouse, and quail populations.</p><p></p><p>IMO, whatever unknown factor is adversely effecting the grouse & quail populations</p><p>is also adversely effecting the turkey populations.</p><p></p><p>We know some of the factors, and I don't think some of those known ones are getting the credit due for just how adverse they are, such as the raptors so often decimating flocks of young birds.</p><p></p><p>Statewide, raptor populations appear at least 10x more than they were 50 years ago?</p><p></p><p>We have always had nest-raiding predators, and I'm not sure there's really that many more than in times past (statewide). In times past, the statewide habitat was much better for raccoons than today? Yes, they were more hunted & trapped, but maybe there were more then than now?</p><p></p><p>I believe one of the lessor realized factors may have to do with there being less insects, even in non-agricultural areas. Without abundant insects, young birds can starve, even in otherwise great habitat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLBLman, post: 5255672, member: 1409"] Many areas historically simultaneously had both good turkey, grouse, and quail populations. IMO, whatever unknown factor is adversely effecting the grouse & quail populations is also adversely effecting the turkey populations. We know some of the factors, and I don't think some of those known ones are getting the credit due for just how adverse they are, such as the raptors so often decimating flocks of young birds. Statewide, raptor populations appear at least 10x more than they were 50 years ago? We have always had nest-raiding predators, and I'm not sure there's really that many more than in times past (statewide). In times past, the statewide habitat was much better for raccoons than today? Yes, they were more hunted & trapped, but maybe there were more then than now? I believe one of the lessor realized factors may have to do with there being less insects, even in non-agricultural areas. Without abundant insects, young birds can starve, even in otherwise great habitat. [/QUOTE]
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