I carry a Glock30 with FMJ 165gr Federal. I've read that JHP would probably be an overkill for .45 and its not needed for stopping power. Yet, I also see JHP are more effective and I'm considering switching over to JHP. What do you think about carrying a Glock .45 with JHP as to FMJ? Recommonded or not? And whats with .45 GAP (Glock Automatic Pistol) ammo? Should I be buying GAP ammo? Whats the difference in recoil (if any)? Thanx
Glock Carry FMJ vs. JHP
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Carry hollow points!!!!
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It's not expanding, probably tumbling
Union Co. Boy
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I always carry hollow points. I don't like the idea of over penetration associated with FMJ's in the event that I have to use it in a public place. I also like the energy transfer from the expansion of a hollow point to help eliminate any threat ASAP.
I would recommend some sort of hollow point or expanding bullet. You have to try them first in your pistol to see that it will feed reliably. Different expanding bullets feed good in some pistols not so good in others. It may take trial and error to find the correct bullet.
You can read anything on the internet. Whoever wrote that was clueless and didn't pay attention in physics class. JHP is absolutely the best choice for self defense rounds.
Yea but a JSP is still an expanding round.
Wiley
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My.45ACP weapons alternate FMJ and HP projectiles. The FMJ should handle vehicle doors if need be and I see no downside to mixing them.
It's been a long time since I got my concealed carry, but I think I remember you are not allowed to carry fmj. Why in the world would anyone want to do that anyway you are responsible for that round and most likely fmj will exit a body.
I see so much controversy over bullets for self defense. I don't care what caliber or round that anyone thinks is not good enough let me try it on you and tell me what you think. My mom carries a .22 I laugh at her but I also would not want her to shoot me with it. Get what feeds in your gun the best.
I think to many over think it all, if I am squeezing I'm aiming...if I'm aiming I'm squeezing... and if I am I'm really close to you and I will hit my mark so go for the window not the door.
We have no limitations on what we can carry. I wouldn't carry FMJ for several reasons, but if someone wants to carry it they can. It's usually the cheapest thing you will find on the shelf and so I'm sure its pretty common.
Get some Federal HST or Punch 230 grain JHP standard pressure and be done with it. You can thank me later.
) are a great defensive round no matter what center fire caliber you carry.
Agree with the Hollow point crowd. Pass through would be my concern with FMJ's and I'm not expecting to have to shoot through doors or structures in a defensive situation. It'll all be over in less than 5 seconds.
Any other scenario you're in a gun fight, which ammo you're using will be the least of your worries.
Just my $.02
Any other scenario you're in a gun fight, which ammo you're using will be the least of your worries.
Just my $.02
Aren't you supposed to be fishing or chopping some firewood or some kind of other camping stuff?
Chores are done. Girls are napping. I'm sharpening knives 
ScLowCountry
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Most fmj ammo has difficulty expanding at 45 acp velocities. Most HP will not expand and function like an fmj. So with that being said fmj ammo is just as good in most cases
Mattt
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Huh?
ScLowCountry
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Ooops lol. Most hollow point projectiles have difficulty expanding at 45 ACP velocities. The 45 ACP is a low velocity round and hollow points have difficulty expanding at such low velocities.
Hollow points in 45 ACP end up functioning just like an FMJ. So for the most part it is wasting money buying hollow points for a 45 ACP especially out of a handgun.
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Interesting discussion.
TnTurk
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Law enforcement carry hollow points. I strongly suggest you do the same. Hollow points expand which results in less penetration. FMJ will have more penetration and likely exit. You are just as responsible for that bullet after it exits as you are when you pull the trigger.
Wiley
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All of my 45ACP hollow point ammo is Winchester Ranger T 230gr. August 2008 was a very good time to stock up before the November election that put the illegal Kenyan in the WH. For those that don't know, Winchester Ranger T has the Black Talon bullet without the black coating so they don't offend the daisies out there. And they do open up like a beautiful flower when they expand.
Mattt
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Personally don't have a problem either way. Both have their place. All those years handloading never saw an issue with a hollow point doing it's job in the acp. They were designed for it. Load it hot and there could be adverse results as the bullet wasn't being used as intended. I can also see the need for increased penetration in urban settings, but the acp doesn't like windshields. Haven't shot any newer vehicles but I'm pretty sure they're gonna be easier to penetrate. 45acp had difficulty punching through the door of an old car that was in the woods at a place we used to shoot. I'd say mid 70s some kind of Pontiac. 9 and .40 poke right thru. 1911s were and will always be my favorite but in town I'd probably lean towards a 9 for increased penetration
