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The teams are discussing playing a game in Atlanta to open the 2017 season.
NOT a FSU fan but think this would be good for FSU.
Everyone hateing on your SOS for years no better way to shut people up then Take on the best of the best in the sec in your opener
Unless they get killed be 30pts but atleast they could say they tried
 
If anyone wants to compare the 2007 version of Alabama football, go right ahead. There was zero draft picks from that senior/junior class that year. Saban has stepped it up, I'd say.

Jimbo is, from all accounts prior to failing miserably as a provider of tough love when needed, a good guy. I've read he's a players coach, which his actions certainly prove. Saban is a hardass of epic proportions. It's football. I'll stick with the hardass.
 
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Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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This all the way the only sec team to have a winning streak of even 25 games or more was bama 1991-1993 they won 28 in a row who beat them??? UT:)
They also had a 28 game winning streak in 1978-1980.
So im thinking saying FSU would not have a 27 game win streak in the sec is safe to say since only 1 team has done it and the last time it was done was the early 90's.
no way this FSU team would have a 27 game win streak if they played in the SEC
 
Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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FSU was a independent at the time. They eventually signed on with the ACC because it was the better deal financially.
 
THEdonkey0515 said:
Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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This all the way the only sec team to have a winning streak of even 25 games or more was bama 1991-1993 they won 28 in a row who beat them??? UT:)
They also had a 28 game winning streak in 1978-1980.
So im thinking saying FSU would not have a 27 game win streak in the sec is safe to say since only 1 team has done it and the last time it was done was the early 90's.
no way this FSU team would have a 27 game win streak if they played in the SEC
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If you want to talk about ancient history perhaps you should look to see who won more games during the 1990's. More than any other team and it has not been repeated. Want to take a guess who it was?
 
mjac said:
Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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FSU was a independent at the time. They eventually signed on with the ACC because it was the better deal financially.
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I'm sure it had nothing to do with playing the cupcakes of the SEC week in and week out <said with sarcasm>. Miami had the same opportunity and well they ended up in the ACC too.
 
mjac said:
THEdonkey0515 said:
Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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This all the way the only sec team to have a winning streak of even 25 games or more was bama 1991-1993 they won 28 in a row who beat them??? UT:)
They also had a 28 game winning streak in 1978-1980.
So im thinking saying FSU would not have a 27 game win streak in the sec is safe to say since only 1 team has done it and the last time it was done was the early 90's.
no way this FSU team would have a 27 game win streak if they played in the SEC
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If you want to talk about ancient history perhaps you should look to see who won more games during the 1990's. More than any other team and it has not been repeated. Want to take a guess who it was?
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If you go by wins it was Marshall with 114 they won more games then any other college school in football.
 
^^^ if your talking winning percentage it's florida st. With .890 they went 109-13-1 but you said who WON more games not best percentage.
Don't see what's that has to do with a winning streak in the sec anyways.
 
Yes I did say won. I should have qualified it by stating win by major college teams. Marshall, with all due respect to Marshall fans, has no place in this conversation.

During the 1990s alone, FSU had a 109-13-1 record, the most victories by any team during a decade. Only Oklahoma during the 1950s won a higher percentage of its games (89.5 percent) during one decade than Florida State did during the '90s (88.6 percent).

Source:http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls12/story/_/id/8772406/if-florida-state-1990s-dynasty-college-football

No this doesn't have anything to do with streaks but before you harp about thread drift, you should note I didn't bring up streaks or conferences affiliation. Someone else did.
 
From what I remember about the FSU to the SEC and why it didn't happen wasn't about $$. It was about being able to win. Bowden didn't want to have to compete with the SEC schools all the time. All that newfound success in football would be watered down and he knew it. There may even be a link floating around out there of Bowden saying it.
 
I can remember one game FSU didn't win in the 90's. Seems like it was '98 to be exact. That seems like 100 years ago.

Sorry to hijack
 
TeamMainStreet said:
I can remember one game FSU didn't win in the 90's. Seems like it was '98 to be exact. That seems like 100 years ago.

Sorry to hijack
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What were the odds that a third string QB would be playing in a title game? I don't think that's ever happened before or since.
 
mjac said:
FSU and Al last met in 2007.
The all time series record between the two teams is:
AL 2 wins, FSU 1 win a there was one tie.

Source: https://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=100069

Btw, regarding FSU playing SEC teams. It took an act of the Florida Legislature (in 1953, I think) before Florida would play them.
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Yeah, and the series record is 34-22-2 UF. ;)
 
Gravey said:
FSU had an opportunity several years back when the SEC was expanding to join and they wouldn't. They might beat Alabama if they play but they wouldn't have a 27-game win streak in the SEC for sure.
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I have never heard that confirmed. I did hear some conversation before A&M and Missouri signed on regarding Clemson and Georgia Tech jumping in, and one of the show hosts said it wouldn't happen because the purpose of expansion is to pick up TV viewers and exposure in new markets.

IMO, if there is ever another SEC expansion, I hope VA Tech joins the SEC. Getting the SEC into the D.C. market would be huge.
 
https://m.facebook.com/CoachBobbyBowden ... 1280680661

Pretty much says so right here. Bobby knew that the SEC schedule was a lot tougher and staying in a weaker conference was the a easier way to compete for a NC. Just recently he weighted in again when Jimbo Fisher talked of switching to a different conference. BB told JF, "Do you want to win National Championships at Florida State? You've got a lot better chance in the ACC than you do in the Big 12 or the SEC."
 
mjac said:
Yes I did say won. I should have qualified it by stating win by major college teams. Marshall, with all due respect to Marshall fans, has no place in this conversation.

During the 1990s alone, FSU had a 109-13-1 record, the most victories by any team during a decade. Only Oklahoma during the 1950s won a higher percentage of its games (89.5 percent) during one decade than Florida State did during the '90s (88.6 percent).

Source:http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls12/story/_/id/8772406/if-florida-state-1990s-dynasty-college-football

No this doesn't have anything to do with streaks but before you harp about thread drift, you should note I didn't bring up streaks or conferences affiliation. Someone else did.
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cool outta the top 10 teams who won the most games in the 90's 3 are now in the SEC florida,Tennessee and texas A&M. UT and UF was top 5. We already talked about bama's 28 game win streak in the 90's. Bama might not be in the top 10 but since they went 28-0 at one point in the sec I'm just gonna guess they was the best team in college for 2 years outta the 90's.
See when you got 2 or 3 teams that's REALLY REALLY good and you got to play them teams every SINGLE year it's hard to go on a huge winning streak lol and win almost every game.
That's what I was talking about in the "If FSU had the vols schedule" topic I don't think ANYONE would have FSU at 27-0 at this point.
If they played 7 sec games a year. Mostly ranked teams half on the road
 
FSU ACC schedule this year
Clemson 8-3
Nc st. 6-5
Wake 3-8
Syracuse 3-8
Louisville 8-3
UVA 5-6
Miami 6-5
BC 6-5

Vols sec schedule
Georgia 9-2
Florida 6-4
Ole miss 8-3
Bama 10-1
SC 6-5
MIZZ 8-3
Kentucky 5-6
Vandy 3-8

Vols played 4 teams that won 8+ games in the SEC, FSU played 2 that won 8+ games in the ACC lol
Vols played 2 that won 9+ games in the SEC, FSU played 0 teams that won 9+ games in the ACC:)
Just to show the difference in a ACC schedule vs sec schedule
 
Hangnail said:
From what I remember about the FSU to the SEC and why it didn't happen wasn't about $$. It was about being able to win. Bowden didn't want to have to compete with the SEC schools all the time. All that newfound success in football would be watered down and he knew it. There may even be a link floating around out there of Bowden saying it.
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darn2ten said:
https://m.facebook.com/CoachBobbyBowden/posts/793631280680661

Pretty much says so right here. Bobby knew that the SEC schedule was a lot tougher and staying in a weaker conference was the a easier way to compete for a NC. Just recently he weighted in again when Jimbo Fisher talked of switching to a different conference. BB told JF, "Do you want to win National Championships at Florida State? You've got a lot better chance in the ACC than you do in the Big 12 or the SEC."
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I am curious to know why, after 20 to 25 years of being turned down by the SEC, when the the ACC asks FSU to join them, the SEC also wants them. Yes, it was about money. Always is.

Regarding the alleged conversation between Bobby Bowden and Jimbo Fisher, please post up that link.
 
Thanks for the link. It does not say to who whom the message, not advice, would be given.
As we learned earlier Head Coaches at FSU do not choose in what conferences their team plays, nor do they choose the teams they play. They play the schedule they are given and at FSU, they play to win them all. Nevertheless there is nothing new about his remark. His Facebook comment (posted earlier) clearly outlines his goal. True then, true today.

"The best road to a national title was through the ACC. A national championship was my number one goal every year"......Bobby Bowden.
 
I pretty sure that the SEC was talking to FSU for expansion a year before the ACC did. And yes, Bowden didn't want to play an SEC schedule AFTER he got the Noles to where they could challenge for a title. He was all for it before anyone knew FSU played football.
 
I am asked why we joined the ACC instead of the SEC back in 1992. We were invited to join both conferences the same year. Let me first say that we (FSU) had applied for membership in the SEC for the previous 20 to 25 years but were turned down every time. When we made our decision, the people making those decisions preferred the ACC for academic reasons.

What part did I play in it? I merely agreed to whatever those responsible decided. I had always been an SEC fan. I did feel, however, that between the SEC and the ACC, the best road to a national title was through the ACC. A national championship was my number one goal every year. The SEC is so tough, top to bottom, that they beat up on each other week after week. In the '90's we played for the national title five times and won two. This proves my point. Plus, FSU won another title last year and may win again this year! Bobby is right .SEC didn't want any part of FSU until they agreed to join the ACC. The basketball money was far greater than the SEC could provide. The SEC is still scared and will not agree to any home and home match up. Auburn bought their way out twice already
 

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