Frustrated

[Tweeter]

I can stack arrows all day long at 20 yards, but my 30 is all over the place! I cant figure this out.. I shoot everyday, and 5 arrows at a time..

 

[DeerKiller2012]

Is your grip right ? I have had same issues in the past and my main problem was form and grip . The minute that was corrected it got very good . Usually form and or grip tells off starting about 30 yds from my experience


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[Mike Belt]

If your shots are consistent try adjusting to your 30 yard pin and then see where your 20 is hitting. If you're hitting dead on at the 30 afterward your 20 should be on except for maybe elevation.

 

[tree_ghost]

Post a pic of your 30 yard group maybe I can pick up a pattern


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[Tweeter]

I shoot right handed, I may just be that shaky, I just know it's not making me happy..
I am also shooting elevated at 30 but not at 20

 

[Tweeter]

I will this evening tree ghost, I'll shoot a group for u

 

[Headhunter]

Shoot some at 50 or better at 60, 70 or 80 yards. It will make 30 seem like a chip shot.

 

[Headhunter]

Is your grip right ? I have had same issues in the past and my main problem was form and grip . The minute that was corrected it got very good . Usually form and or grip tells off starting about 30 yds from my experience


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Archery innovations anchor sight is one of the best aids for checking consistent grip and form, best part is you get rid of the peep sight.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

How long have you been shooting?

 

[Tweeter]

I have only been shooting this bow for about 3 months
Before that I had a pse.. But only yugo a turkey with it..
Iv used a crossbow since they have been legal.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

Getting proficient with a bow takes time. It's not unusual for groups to open up at further distances, in fact it's very normal. Post a pic as previously mentioned of your 30yd group and it would really, really help us to help you if you posted a pic of you at full draw so we can check your form (anchor, grip, etc...). Do not try to shoot long distances yet because your mentally and physically not ready for that and it can create all kinds of mental issues that can cause all kinds of problems. Also, don't put a lot of pressure on yourself and lower expectations. I have the feeling that you are expecting that kind of group pattern at 30yds. The fact is, there are people that have shot for decades and can't do it, so chill out on yourself and focus on making good, clean shots--stop worrying about the groups. Consistent shot execution is what you should try to achieve, the accuracy and consistent groups will follow at some point.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

What part of the state do you live in anyway?

 

[scn]

My guess from one of your earlier posts is that you are trying to "time" your shot and are punching the trigger on your release. The further you get from your target, the more movement you will see with your sight pins across the target. If you try to punch your release trigger when the pin crosses the bullseye, you will have the same effect as you do when you jerk the trigger on a rifle. That likely is why your group is opening up a bunch.

As was suggested in an earlier thread, let your pins float around the bull and concentrate on a gentle release that "takes you by surprise". It is somewhat counter-intuitive to do this, so you will have to make yourself do it. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the results.

Trigger punching is a bad habit to get into. Usually to solve it you have to go to a back tension release or do a bunch of "blind" shooting into your target. Since you are just sort of getting started, don't let yourself drift down that road.

 

[Tweeter]

Guys thank y'all so much for taking the time to try and help me. I got up this morning fresh and rested and shot a group for y'all to see...
I live in Christiana for tndeerguy.

 

[Tweeter]

In my mind a deer vitals are a lil bigger than that target..

 

[gobblinfool]

Has the bow been tuned? Has a laser sight been run down the string to the tip of the arrow? An unturned bow is an unforgiving bow.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

Guys thank y'all so much for taking the time to try and help me. I got up this morning fresh and rested and shot a group for y'all to see...
I live in Christiana for tndeerguy.

I assume that is a 30yd group?

 

[Tweeter]

Yes sorry.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

That's not a bad group for an early morning, tight-muscled novice archer—quit being so hard on yourself. I'm sending you a PM.

 

[JeepKuntry]

Has the bow been tuned? Has a laser sight been run down the string to the tip of the arrow? An unturned bow is an unforgiving bow.

This would be my suggestion as well. I usually try to have the bow tweeked in June or early July. Once you get into August shops are busy.

 

[BAMA BOW MERKER]

Shoot one at a time. Space your shots out and make that one shot count

 

[BAMA BOW MERKER]

Could also be your arrows. If they don't have the correct spine etc

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

Vertical stringing is usually caused by punching the release and not letting the pin settle in

Or

Dropping the bow down to see where the arrow went .

I would suggest doing some blind bailing . Read up on that on YouTube where u concentrate on your anchor points and form.

Then put a dark color camo t shirt over your target where you won't be able to see the arrow hit .

I think you will find your stringing problem will be better .


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[tree_ghost]

Vertical stringing is usually caused by punching the release and not letting the pin settle in

Or

Dropping the bow down to see where the arrow went .

I would suggest doing some blind bailing . Read up on that on YouTube where u concentrate on your anchor points and form.

Then put a dark color camo t shirt over your target where you won't be able to see the arrow hit .

I think you will find your stringing problem will be better .


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Hit the nail on the head!


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[PillsburyDoughboy]

35 yards . I declare I am ready :)


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[PillsburyDoughboy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09VIvGRqNVU

Here is one of the best videos I have seen on Blind Bail shooting

Skip to 2:00 mark for that.

But there is some really good tips on all of these FYI

 

[PillsburyDoughboy]

Another TIP I could offer.

If you look at the target above my deer you will see where I have painted DOTS on there.

Rather than shooting for groups.. I might suggest shooting at dots.

What I have found is that it helps build confidence in the shooter. Your groups may not always APPEAR tight.. but if they are in close relation to the DOT.. you are probably going to make the shot when it counts. May not be right on the mark..but in deer hunting you have about a 6 inch kill area with the vitals. So for instance if your 2 inches away from the dot in any direction its not neccecarly a bad shot. Would make for a poor group yes but not necessary a bad shot on a deer.

Also as the season gets closer... I get away from shooting targets all together and shoot strictly 3D deer targets.

What I have found is it gets me in the mindset of shooting 3 dimensional targets. I shoot them from various angles and from a elevated position. The reason is the deer is not always going to give you a broadside shot or may turn at the last second.

opening day last year My shot was from 3 yards from the 20 FT stand I was in. Deer was quartering away from me on my right side. I aimed further back of the vitals that where I would normally aim. The shot was perfectly placed as the arrow exited the far side shoulder. I blew right through the heart and the far side lung. Had I shot for center of the vitals I may have missed altogether or just clipped the front of the heart. I attributed this kill to working so heavily with 3 D targets and a elevated position.

Good Luck,