Feb Commission meeting

[TNGunsmoke]

Proclamation change for next duck season will merge Reelfoot Zone dates to be the same as statewide, even though it will remain a separate zone for the next 5 years for the Feds. Rules and regulations changes come up sometime at tomorrows session. Wonder what they're gonna mess up with those. From Dr. Cohen's presentation last month, it won't surprise me to see spinning wing decoys banned on WMAs.

 

[RUGER]

Arkansas banned them so they gotta keep up with the Jones's

 

[cmn]

Proclamation change for next duck season will merge Reelfoot Zone dates to be the same as statewide, even though it will remain a separate zone for the next 5 years for the Feds. Rules and regulations changes come up sometime at tomorrows session. Wonder what they're gonna mess up with those. From Dr. Cohen's presentation last month, it won't surprise me to see spinning wing decoys banned on WMAs.

many guides and hunters requested this change

 

[RecurveShooter]

Federal migratory birds season dates dates and bag limits are the only things being voted on this meeting. WMA regulations will be on the table in April and May meetings.

 

[Kritter Gitter]

As I watched the most recent meeting, I continuously shook my head. It started with ole Jamie Fedderson. This guy has absolutely no business being in charge of anything to do with hunting. He is always so freakin clueless. It really made me mad the he referred to the WMAs as "our WMAs." NO, they are OUR WMAs (the residents of this state)!! You guys are just, for some stupid reason, in charge of managing them. I have said it time and time again, we really need a STATE DNR, not these clowns in charge of OUR resources!! I am really glad though that we will now have 365 day licenses!

 

[scn]

Pretty laughable take.

Since they are in charge of managing them, and most are hunters as well using them, I can't see much wrong with the "ours".

Sort of glad seeing them take ownership of what they are doing.

 

[Kritter Gitter]

Pretty laughable take.

Since they are in charge of managing them, and most are hunters as well using them, I can't see much wrong with the "ours".

Sort of glad seeing them take ownership of what they are doing.

Taking ownership?! I wish they would, especially when they screw up! Only thing laughable is that you would defend them!

 

[RecurveShooter]

Well I'm going to have to eat some crow…I'm watching now and they are discussing the drawing process for tier blinds.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

Well I'm going to have to eat some crow…I'm watching now and they are discussing the drawing process for tier blinds.

Will be interesting to see what changes they come up with. One thing I saw when they put up a slide right before the break was return to in-person drawing, but don't have to be present to "win". Which implies that there will still be computerized entry(or something else like maybe phone in) for an in-person draw, like they did for the leftover permits this past season.

 

[WilcoKen]

Will be interesting to see what changes they come up with. One thing I saw when they put up a slide right before the break was return to in-person drawing, but don't have to be present to "win". Which implies that there will still be computerized entry(or something else like maybe phone in) for an in-person draw, like they did for the leftover permits this past season.

I recommended they do a hybrid in person draw. With Zoom and other teleconference options being mainstream now I don't know why they could not accommodate both in person and virtual attendees. This way, those in attendance could see the cards go in and the cards that got drawn come out. The trust factor with the computer draw is not there—too many screw ups this last 2 years.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

So far, In person draw is a mis-statement, it looks to be an in person award process for a computerized draw, not names going into a barrel like what has been asked for.

 

[scn]

Taking ownership?! I wish they would, especially when they screw up! Only thing laughable is that you would defend them!

They do some stuff that is worth whining about. But to complain about "our" is a major reach and laughable.

 

[Kritter Gitter]

They do some stuff that is worth whining about. But to complain about "our" is a major reach and laughable.

I don't think you are fully understanding the comment. It was to mean that they think that they own these WMAs, not the public at large. Yes, they may be hunters as well but that wasn't the context. But I'm not gonna go back and forth with you because you are one of "them" so there's no point. Have a great day!

 

[JDUB]

So you can show up in person to see if your name was drawn by a computer??? Get Bent.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

So you can show up in person to see if your name was drawn by a computer??? Get Bent.

I believe they will also email since you don't have to be present to be drawn. NOI is still required afterwards.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

Minimum party size for tier 1 or 2 drawing has been set to 4, max is 8.

 

[West_Tn]

Their own survey: 75% said allow blind hopping on tier 2 blinds. 20% said don't. They went with the 20% and said screw everyone else were just going to do whatever we want and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[younggun308]

From Dr. Cohen's presentation last month, it won't surprise me to see spinning wing decoys banned on WMAs.

Would they not have already added that amendment to the proclamation?

 

[flyinpro]

If I ever draw a blind, I'm gonna need a guide to find it and a rules official to interpret applicable rules. Gee

We talking about banning MoJo's now?

 

[TNGunsmoke]

Would they not have already added that amendment to the proclamation?

This meeting was for season dates and the blind draw process. I believe WMA regulation changes are supposed to be discussed at April or May's meeting.

 

[drake799]

Minimum party size for tier 1 or 2 drawing has been set to 4, max is 8.

I actually agree with this one. Something needed to be done to stop the big groups from applying as individuals and still having people left accumulating points IMO

 

[Levee Jumper]

I actually agree with this one. Something needed to be done to stop the big groups from applying as individuals and still having people left accumulating points IMO

Likely It will just cost everybody another $108 per year to put 3 people that don't hunt in for all 3 draws. Making it no less fair but making the state much more money.

 

[Levee Jumper]

Likely It will just cost everybody another $108 per year to put 3 people that don't hunt in for all 3 draws. Making it no less fair but making the state much more money.

That's gonna make priority points jacked up too lol

 

[drake799]

Are people not gonna be required to but the license and wma permits now?! Maybe I misunderstood that.

 

[drake799]

Like I said I just don't want the groups of 50,75,200 all putting in as individuals drawing these spots then bringing all their buddies making it harder for everyone else to draw. Basically "cheating the system". Sure this is unpopular opinion with some But it help keep some these points in check I think

 

[Levee Jumper]

Like I said I just don't want the groups of 50,75,200 all putting in as individuals drawing these spots then bringing all their buddies making it harder for everyone else to draw. Basically "cheating the system". Sure this is unpopular opinion with some But it help keep some these points in check I think

I don't disagree. I just think the state will end up letting anybody draw without required license for $12. That will not fix the issue, just make it harder and more expensive to game the system.

 

[TNGunsmoke]

Are people not gonna be required to but the license and wma permits now?! Maybe I misunderstood that.

As I understand it, Tier I will require the same licenses and permits the old hand held local draw did, and Tier II will be same as any other quota hunt, pay the fee, or have a sportsman's license. And it looks like Tier I will require you to be a resident of the state as well.

 

[Quiet Mouse]

As if it couldn't get any more difficult. It's like interpreting tax code at this point. TWRA is becoming the IRS…
They need their wings clipped…

 

[RUGER]

As if it couldn't get any more difficult. It's like interpreting tax code at this point. TWRA is becoming the IRS…
They need their wings clipped…

They need to be abolished and turned over to the government.
At least getting screwed wouldn't come as a surprise!!!
Sorriest agency I have ever seen!

 

[Smashdn]

Like I said I just don't want the groups of 50,75,200 all putting in as individuals drawing these spots then bringing all their buddies making it harder for everyone else to draw. Basically "cheating the system". Sure this is unpopular opinion with some But it help keep some these points in check I think

I may misunderstand but how is putting in as a single or a group different? Before if a group [of four] was drawn you would have one drawn hunter and 3 others who were "sign ons." Or an individual was drawn by himself, he alone was the cardholder and without him being there the blind could be hopped by whomever provided they got to the blind first.

Only thing the group does, as far as I understand it, is force four or more guys to agree on which blinds to put in for and what order.