fastest bow???

[jeff034fun]

what is the fastest bow out today

 

[paradis1142]

Pse OMEN

 

[jeff034fun]

thanks

 

[UTGrad]

(push button) "That was Easy"

 

[jeff034fun]

(push button) "That was Easy"

lol

 

[bowhunter163]

Matthews monster XLR8 will shoot right with the omen .

 

[knightrider]

omen pro

 

[UTGrad]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

 

[Andy S.]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

 

[knightrider]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

 

[TNDeerGuy]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.

 

[knightrider]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.

nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer season

 

[TNDeerGuy]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.

nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer season

...and that is your choice! :)
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around. :)
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one? ;)

My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.

 

[jeff034fun]

what do you mean about unforgiving

 

[Unicam]

Short Brace Height+Fast Bow=miss faster....

Will stick with my Drenalin, plenty fast and very forgiving!

 

[knightrider]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.

nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer season

...and that is your choice! :)
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around. :)
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one? ;)

My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.

i can accurately hit a skoal can out to 60 yards all day long no matter how im posistioned because i practice that way, if your a hunter you practice for those not so perfect situations, it is my responsibility to know my equipment and my limitations, i could care less what world champs are shooting, i shoot what works for me and forgivness is in the archer and you cant convince me otherwise you can either shoot or you cant bottom line. it all boils down to perfect fit and practice, and yes this is just my opinion on the subject that forgivness is horsewarsh :grin:

 

[TNDeerGuy]

The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".

Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.

i wish someone would give me one of both :D forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:

But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.

nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer season

...and that is your choice! :)
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around. :)
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one? ;)

My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.

i can accurately hit a skoal can out to 60 yards all day long no matter how im posistioned because i practice that way, if your a hunter you practice for those not so perfect situations, it is my responsibility to know my equipment and my limitations, i could care less what world champs are shooting, i shoot what works for me and forgivness is in the archer and you cant convince me otherwise you can either shoot or you cant bottom line. it all boils down to perfect fit and practice, and yes this is just my opinion on the subject that forgivness is horsewarsh :grin:

That's wonderful that you can shoot an extremely low brace height with such confidence and accuracy, an exceptional archer you must be! :) However, personally I would never recommend a low brace height to just anyone because of the very reduced forgiveness because the arrow is on the string for an increased amount of time because of the low brace height which gives a longer power stroke (the key to increased speed)�which it all equates to more susceptibility to shooting inconsistency because magnified form errors because of the increased amount of time the arrow is in contact with the bow.

Anyone can drive a car, not just anyone can drive a racecar�even racecar drivers make mistakes that wouldn't show up if they were in a normal car is an analogy that fits the moment. The point is, there are a ton of bows that are available in a 7" brace height that have all of the speed anyone hunting in North America needs and they have comparable kinetic energy to the "speed" bows when it is all said and done with. Choose a bow that fits properly, is smooth and easy to draw back, one that you can shoot accurately, gives little hand shock and most of all....is comfortable to you! Speed has NEVER killed a single thing, accuracy is the only thing that kills!

 

[lung-buster]

I had the Omen and traded it like a moron a while back. I always shot a "regular" hunting bow before. The Omen was deadly fast and accurate set at 73# with a 29" draw. I hope to pick me up another one this summer. True that speed dosent kill but it sure put a smile on my face shooting it.

 

[knightrider]

speed does kill if you have enough and misjudge your yarage by a few, the flatter it shoots, leaves more room on judging distance. so speed sure does help in the killing advantage

 

[bowhunterfanatic]

Use a rangefinder and you don't have to worry about judging distance!

 

[Crow Terminator]

A fast low brace height bow that is tuned well will out shoot a medium speed high brace height bow not tuned well. You fellas are forgetting that there's more to a bow than just brace height, speed, and A-A length.

A great example of this is with two bows I've had this year.

MR6 - 6" brace height, short A-A, and 340+ fps.

K&K Vindicator - 7" brace height, 35" A-A length, and 330 fps.

By default most of you would grab the Vindicator due to its specs for being more forgiving. There is where you mess up. It is one of the most difficult and finicky to tune bows I've ever shot. I've worked on it for a week and have let the archery shop guys have it for a week and it has us all ready to sling it. Horrible nock travel and very finicky.

MR6 out of the box - bullet hole. You did not shoot the same spot twice with that bow!! I wish I would have been able to keep it or afford another one...I might even opt for an MR5 if I had the money.

 

[paradis1142]

All of Hoyts hunting bows are sub 7" brace height this year. They must not think it's a big deal.

 

[TITANSFAN2104]

All of Hoyts hunting bows are sub 7" brace height this year. They must not think it's a big deal.

SPEED is what sells !! Kinda like listing the horsepower on a car!! I understand both sides of this debate and i really dont believe that anyone here who has purchased a bow didnt look at that ibo speed, we all do !!! :)

 

[Andy S.]

i really dont believe that anyone here who has purchased a bow didnt look at that ibo speed, we all do !!! :)

For the record, I did not then (2005) and I still have no idea what my IBO speed is on my Switchback. I do know I can punch holes with it out to 30 yards (my self imposed limit in the woods) and I know it shoots through most every deer and buries up in the ground on opposite side. That is good enough for me. Not being a horses rear, just stating the facts in my case.

 

[bryan1967]

Brace height is a real and fundamental factor in determining a bow's forgiveness, despite what knightrider says. Its clear that not many people in the world are as exceptional as knightrider. After hearing him brag, I think I am his second biggest fan. But I think most of us hunters can appreciate having a forgiving bow. An example...four of us hunting buddies would get together every labor day weekend and cook out the doves we had blasted that weekend and also shoot at targets with our bows in the yard. We all would have been practicing regularly by July. But one of my buddies loved speed. He had a low brace height bow with a radical cam that shot super fast, but he clearly shot the worst of all of us. Even missed the target some. But he got the gold medal for speed. The rest of us lobbed them in there and were pretty much driving tacks. That same guy has since learned his lesson (only after buying 3 different super-fast, low brace height bows in about 6 or 7 years) and now shoots a real hunting bow like the rest of us and probably outshoots us at targets.

 

[peytondeerman]

the omen tears up to easy i got the z7 its faster thn the omen

 

[Crow Terminator]

In what universe is a Z7 faster than an Omen? Not this one buddy LOL

Brace height is not as important as the A-A length and so many other factors....wall, valley, cam timing, nock travel, tiller adjustment and tuning, nock pinch due to short A-A bow. I could go on and on. A perfect example of this is with these ultra short bows today. Say 28-31 inches A-A. Most of them need a 7+ inch brace height...some are even coming in at 8" brace heights. Me personally...you couldn't give me one of those kind of bows.

I like a bow 34-36 inches A-A with a 6 - 6.5 inch brace height. The longer A-A and blend of 6" brace height makes it perfect for my style of shooting. I've won more tournaments and killed more critters with those general specs than any other bow specs. Accuracy with speed and well tuned bow -- DEADLY. Problem is....90% of shooters don't know tuning beyond an arrow rest adjustment.

 

[peytondeerman]

the omen is a better bow but you know what i mean i guess its like act or opinion the omens better shootin to you and i like the z7 there both great bows to us the omen is faster though..

 

[peytondeerman]

the omen is a better bow but you know what i mean i guess its like act or opinion the omens better shootin to you and i like the z7 there both great bows to us the omen is faster though..

 

[spoon]

the omen tears up to easy i got the z7 its faster thn the omen

You have it backwards bud, Owen is the fastest bow on the market