Fall/winter planted young trees?

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I planted Kiefer and Bartlett pear trees last weekend...gotta figure they are liking the rain and mild temps.
 
Big Dawg said:
Let me know if your Kiefers grow....people say they dont grow well in the south......
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Ive heard just the opposite. They grow well in south Louisiana and you cant get much further south than that. They are actually harder to grow up north according to some people on the QDMA forums.
 
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I've got one ancient Kiefer that keeps right on bearing fruit; not sure how old that dude is but seems to be pretty prolific. The newly planted ones are within 40 yards or so hopefully they'll follow suit. Same dirt, sun, slope/drainage so we'll see.
 
Boll Weevil said:
I've got one ancient Kiefer that keeps right on bearing fruit; not sure how old that dude is but seems to be pretty prolific. The newly planted ones are within 40 yards or so hopefully they'll follow suit. Same dirt, sun, slope/drainage so we'll see.
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How do the deer like pears? I have heard differing opinions.
 
The deer in my area (west TN) absolutely love'em. I don't see where they like them any less than apples (Arkansas Black) and I think they may actually prefer them over muscadines, persimmons, and crabapples. Of course one of the things to think about is timing for when they mature and fall to the ground vs. other available "candy foods." Given a choice, they seem to pick the pears pretty often in my area.
 
Ballerski said:
How do the deer like pears? I have heard differing opinions.
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I've got both growing right in my yard and in my experience they actually seem to prefer the pears over apples. My pears are more prolific, sweeter, and much more dependable than my apples. However, I'm sure variety and local growing conditions could cause different results.
 
Kieffers do well here. This tree is in Zone 6 at around 2000 feet and drops around Oct 20th. This is organic, no pesticides used.
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Football Hunter said:
smstone22 said:
Kieffers do well here. This tree is in Zone 6 at around 2000 feet and drops around Oct 20th. This is organic, no pesticides used.
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you dont spray em at all?
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I am always testing. I have enough trees I can sacrifice to test alot of different things. That tree is a no spray. I do spray others however. The key is keeping a tree very healthy. Healthy trees resist stressors such as disease much easier. I do alot of things organic with trees and foodplots.
 
smstone22,
I see you have an exclusion cage in that photo. Did you start out with a tube or just go with the cage from day 1? How old should the tree be before I can safely remove the cage?
 
Boll Weevil said:
smstone22,
I see you have an exclusion cage in that photo. Did you start out with a tube or just go with the cage from day 1? How old should the tree be before I can safely remove the cage?
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I will not use tubes with any fruit tree. I, along with many others, believe them to be a promoter of pests and diseases in fruit trees. On the flip side, many other knowledgeable folks will say its perfectly fine, but not me. I cage from day 1. I dont remove cages. I have made them smaller as I get the first set of limbs up around 5 feet high. I leave them on because I dont want a buck rubbing them even when they are older. We all have different situations though. I have a property with a very low density where I dont even need a fruit tree caged any other time besides Fall, I just dont have to worry about deer browse there. I have left young apple and pear trees uncaged for months there Winter through Summer just to see if they would get browsed and they havent. However, on my other property in another county, I cant even leave a young fruit tree out for a couple days without it getting damaged. So there I have to use large diameter cages or the deer will browse on every limb they can get to.So generally large diameter cages are recommended. I always give advice based off of the safest route, but I am always testing and researching a lot of different ways to skin the same cat.
 
Does anyone else use the tree tubes?? I just planted a dozen apple trees a couple weeks ago (my first ones) and I put tubes around all of them (Tubex Combitube tubes). I had read they helped promote growth while not promoting disease, but can't help but be a little concerned after what smstone22 noted in his previous post (he seems to be very knowledgeable on this stuff). I planted 2ea liberty, enterprise, terry winter, royal limbertwig, old fashion limbertwig,and hardy cumberland if that makes any difference.
 

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