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megalomaniac

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Just got back from the farm doing some bushhogging and putting in some food plots (a month too late, LONG and frustrating story).

I also spent a little time in the woods to try to kill some does early season.

Not sure if it's the agricultural beans, extra rainfall and browse, or a better timed and earlier rut (or maybe a combination of all 3); but I saw several fawns that were in the 75-80 lb range, which is unheard of this early in the season on my farms. In fact, one of the does I killed was 4.5 and 155lbs live wt, the largest doe I've ever taken. She had a button buck fawn with her that was at least 80 lbs and had 3" velvet buttons already!

Fawn recruitment from trail cams and observation appears to be around 40% this year, very disappointing since we only chopped up one with the haybine (normally 4 or 5/yr). But I've still got quite the surplus of does since most of the neighbors don't shoot them.

I did watch a 110" 2.5 y/o 8 ptr and a 3.5 y/o 115" 8 ptr fight right in front of me yesterday morning until the 3.5 y/o rolled the smaller 2.5 y/o :)

The bucks I saw appeared to be similar in size to years past, around 110lbs for the 1.5 y/o's, probably 150 lbs on the 2.5 y/o and 180lbs on the 3.5 y/o

I did see a couple late born fawns that were small (just lost spots), but most of the fawns were WELL above average weight (looked like the fawns normally look in December). Are the rest of you guys seeing much larger fawns this year as well?
 
Not that I have noticed John but I will be on the look out more closely and I'll ask around our area to see what others say. Sounds like you had a good time up in middle TN. Congrats on the mature doe.
 
While visiting my fiance in East TN this past weekend, I saw 2 fawns mega that looked just like you described. There were 2 fawns and 2 does. The fawns looked to be the exact same size as the does, but they still had spots. I couldnt believe it.

While on the other hand, I shot a doe opening day here in middle TN (Hickman) and the fawn looked tiny that was with her
 
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I haven't noticed any difference in size, but I have noticed quite a difference in quantity. With the exception of 2 does, every pic I have with does in it, they had fawns with them. Spots dropped in mid September, and 1 had twins. Must've been a good year for getting some tail in the woods last year.
 
gmckinney626 said:
I haven't noticed any difference in size, but I have noticed quite a difference in quantity. With the exception of 2 does, every pic I have with does in it, they had fawns with them. Spots dropped in mid September, and 1 had twins. Must've been a good year for getting some tail in the woods last year.

Fawn recruitment finally improved last year after several poor years in a row, and fawn recruitment is through the roof this year.
 
All that I am seeing in Williamson County are just now losing their spots. But all but 2 does have at least 2 fawns. We are beginning to get overcrowded. The problem is that I am on 600 acres surrounded by downtown Franklin and a subdivision. With all the thick cover on the property it makes it hard to get the mature bucks moving during daylight hours.
 

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