Earn a buck

[EastTNHunter]

I'm not claiming to be a proponent, especially for a 2 day hunt, but according to the WMA Mgr of a fine WMA near me, not enough does are being taken and the deer are overpopulated. He says that most hunters only show up to kill a nice buck (horn hunting), so he will suggest that they go to earn a buck next season.

I personally wish that they would try something a bit different, but he claims that the numbers are way too high and he cannot keep a share cropper due to the overbrowsing of the deer, which are even eating corn stalks. Before I post my opinions, what do y'all think is the answer to this issue?

 

[MickThompson]

Longer hunts. You can't expect a hunter to put in for multiple years, finally get drawn, then "spoil" his shot at a decent buck. Give them a week and I think you'd have more does taken. Or go with a weeklong hunt and earn a buck. But EAB and ARs don't work on short weekend hunts.


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[catman529]

Shoot they need someone like me who likes doe hunting as much as buck hunting


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[scn]

Earn a buck is a joke.

 

[GRIT]

Earn a buck is a joke.

Yes it is

 

[hunter0925]

If they Go to earn a buck I will quit putting in unless the lengthen the hunt to a minimum of 3 days. They could always do a doe only draw hunt at the end of the season to eliminate some doe. Also, if deer are that over populated why would they not go back to allowing a buck and a doe to be killed instead of only a buck or a doe. There are to many options on the table still to go to an earn a buck this early. I know somebody would have went for another doe this weekend if he was given the chance but he wasn't.

 

[EastTNHunter]

If they Go to earn a buck I will quit putting in unless the lengthen the hunt to a minimum of 3 days. They could always do a doe only draw hunt at the end of the season to eliminate some doe. Also, if deer are that over populated why would they not go back to allowing a buck and a doe to be killed instead of only a buck or a doe. There are to many options on the table still to go to an earn a buck this early. I know somebody would have went for another doe this weekend if he was given the chance but he wasn't.

I agree with every point of this premise, regardless of our relation :D

I always wondered why they cut the ML and rifle hunts back to only one deer.

I do think that it brings up a good point for hunters to consider their responsibility in controlling the population, not just antler hunting. I think that a week long hunt would overdo it..,

 

[Jcalder]

What wma is this?


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[TNGRIZZLY_]

Shoot they need someone like me who likes doe hunting as much as buck hunting


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hey I am all for taking a doe, they eat great.
might start a business called ( have does will travel) :tu:

 

[WORM82]

Have you seen Holston army ammunition plants guidelines the last few years. They have been earn a buck for at least 10 years and still say their population is declining. Now even on the juvy hunt it's bow only and you have to kill a mature doe first and then you get to buck but it has to be 8pts or more. I think at least the juveniles should be shotgun or muzzy and be able to kill anything.

 

[psubuzz]

I'm going to be at the Holston hunt next weekend. Itll be my first time there, and if it's like everyone I have talked to that has been there in the past, the biggest challenge is killing a mature doe. Apparently there's decent bucks walking around there but you have to sit on your hands til you get a doe. I wish it was at least a Saturday and Sunday like you guys are saying and not just one day. Earn a Buck in a one day hunt, that you get assigned a stand that you've never been to or scouted, almost seems like the odds are stacked against you in what would normally be a great opportunity. There are some out of state hunt properties I hunt that killing a buck and doe in the same day wouldn't be a big deal. But in East TN, that seems like a tall order in my opinion. Ill give it my all and don't plan on coming out of the woods for anything unless I kill.

 

[WORM82]

I'm going to be at the Holston hunt next weekend. Itll be my first time there, and if it's like everyone I have talked to that has been there in the past, the biggest challenge is killing a mature doe. Apparently there's decent bucks walking around there but you have to sit on your hands til you get a doe. I wish it was at least a Saturday and Sunday like you guys are saying and not just one day. Earn a Buck in a one day hunt, that you get assigned a stand that you've never been to or scouted, almost seems like the odds are stacked against you in what would normally be a great opportunity. There are some out of state hunt properties I hunt that killing a buck and doe in the same day wouldn't be a big deal. But in East TN, that seems like a tall order in my opinion. Ill give it my all and don't plan on coming out of the woods for anything unless I kill.

I will be there with my 13 year old cousin this sat.

 

[psubuzz]

I'm going to be at the Holston hunt next weekend. Itll be my first time there, and if it's like everyone I have talked to that has been there in the past, the biggest challenge is killing a mature doe. Apparently there's decent bucks walking around there but you have to sit on your hands til you get a doe. I wish it was at least a Saturday and Sunday like you guys are saying and not just one day. Earn a Buck in a one day hunt, that you get assigned a stand that you've never been to or scouted, almost seems like the odds are stacked against you in what would normally be a great opportunity. There are some out of state hunt properties I hunt that killing a buck and doe in the same day wouldn't be a big deal. But in East TN, that seems like a tall order in my opinion. Ill give it my all and don't plan on coming out of the woods for anything unless I kill.

I will be there with my 13 year old cousin this sat.

Good luck! :smash:

 

[SKFOOTER]

Earn-A-Buck requirements have absolutely devastated the deer herds on the Federal Refuges in this state. What once were hunts of a lifetime have turned into hunts without even seeing a deer.

 

[alexmike]

I hate the earn a buck. I hunted enterprise south a couple of years ago when you had to kill a doe first. 20 mind after daylight, a big 13 pointer came in and fed under me for hour and a half. It was one of the biggest deer I've ever seen and had many many shots on it. Couldn't do anything but watch it. It walked out of my life and never seen the elusive doe. Now they don't even have hunts there. Why? Partly because the tree huggers didn't like them closing park for 2 days or the deer population wasn't what they thought it was. Anyways. Not a fan of earn a buck

 

[Winchester]

ORWMA will very likely be Earn a buck in the near future, if the addition of Doe tags to each hunt this yr (went from one buck and one antlerless to one buck and 2 antlerless) doesnt get the doe kill up some. DOE's one and only goal from allowing deer hunting on the Reservation is to reduce vehicle/deer collisions and any other problems the deer cause from getting in to areas they shouldnt. Most serious hunters put in for Oak Ridge simply to have a chance at a good buck and many simply never even consider shooting a doe. I see it coming!

 

[Headhunter]

Absolute no to earn a buck, well at least for the first buck. For any buck after the first one, I don't care, but not the first one.

 

[oldmanelrod]

If they Go to earn a buck I will quit putting in unless the lengthen the hunt to a minimum of 3 days. They could always do a doe only draw hunt at the end of the season to eliminate some doe. Also, if deer are that over populated why would they not go back to allowing a buck and a doe to be killed instead of only a buck or a doe. There are to many options on the table still to go to an earn a buck this early. I know somebody would have went for another doe this weekend if he was given the chance but he wasn't.

Just curious....why not kill the does off in a early season hunt instead of a late season hunt. That way less energy would be wasted by bucks in the rut chasing and breeding does that get killed in a late hunt. Also would increase buck movement as they would be up more having to seek out the smaller number of receptive does. Not knocking doe hunts or your post.

 

[Mike Belt]

On the fence here. If you have a population terribly out of balance leaning towards does it may possibly be a way to force hunters to take does. It does seem to be a better idea to hold only doe hunts to remove some prior to any buck hunting; akin to PI's first 2 hunts being doe only hunts. To hold a draw hunt where you have to kill a doe first will only stand to aggravate hunters that have to pass on any buck they my see first. If I was in charge of setting up this type draw hunt I'd think about holding a doe hunt first and those successful hunters would then be the hunters eligible to participate in the future buck hunt.

 

[jb357]

The majority of hunters putting in for draw hunts aren't going to shoot does unless they kill a buck the first morning. Even then they'll probably go home. I agree that holding an early season doe only hunt that if you're successful allows you to hunt for a buck later is a better choice than a 2 day earn a buck hunt, but there'd still be people complaining.
Bottom line is, if you don't like it don't put in for it

 

[little highriser]

Earn-A-Buck requirements have absolutely devastated the deer herds on the Federal Refuges in this state. What once were hunts of a lifetime have turned into hunts without even seeing a deer.

^^This^^^

 

[hunter0925]

If they Go to earn a buck I will quit putting in unless the lengthen the hunt to a minimum of 3 days. They could always do a doe only draw hunt at the end of the season to eliminate some doe. Also, if deer are that over populated why would they not go back to allowing a buck and a doe to be killed instead of only a buck or a doe. There are to many options on the table still to go to an earn a buck this early. I know somebody would have went for another doe this weekend if he was given the chance but he wasn't.

Just curious....why not kill the does off in a early season hunt instead of a late season hunt. That way less energy would be wasted by bucks in the rut chasing and breeding does that get killed in a late hunt. Also would increase buck movement as they would be up more having to seek out the smaller number of receptive does. Not knocking doe hunts or your post.

I really don't care whether it is early or late personally. My thought in the late hunt would be that it would be similar to west Tn doe or antlerless week. Point being that either they need to add a tag to the existing hunts or add an antlerless hunt instead of earn a buck.

 

[Winchester]

On the fence here. If you have a population terribly out of balance leaning towards does it may possibly be a way to force hunters to take does. It does seem to be a better idea to hold only doe hunts to remove some prior to any buck hunting; akin to PI's first 2 hunts being doe only hunts. To hold a draw hunt where you have to kill a doe first will only stand to aggravate hunters that have to pass on any buck they my see first. If I was in charge of setting up this type draw hunt I'd think about holding a doe hunt first and those successful hunters would then be the hunters eligible to participate in the future buck hunt.

I agree!!!

 

[AT Hiker]

Antlerless only hunt with any weapon choice before statewide season opens. That way if your close and self described meat hunter you would have more opportunity.
I'd likely put in for it if my freezer was low.


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[landman]

I know that killed 28 does on the first day of Cross Creeks 3 day Gun hunt...All the Manager from TN National who acually is the Boss of CC wants to due is get ride of the deer, BSK stated to me that the Guys at TN National told him for a fact the goal was to kill as many deer as they could to save Duck food

 

[oldmanelrod]

If they Go to earn a buck I will quit putting in unless the lengthen the hunt to a minimum of 3 days. They could always do a doe only draw hunt at the end of the season to eliminate some doe. Also, if deer are that over populated why would they not go back to allowing a buck and a doe to be killed instead of only a buck or a doe. There are to many options on the table still to go to an earn a buck this early. I know somebody would have went for another doe this weekend if he was given the chance but he wasn't.

Just curious....why not kill the does off in a early season hunt instead of a late season hunt. That way less energy would be wasted by bucks in the rut chasing and breeding does that get killed in a late hunt. Also would increase buck movement as they would be up more having to seek out the smaller number of receptive does. Not knocking doe hunts or your post.

I really don't care whether it is early or late personally. My thought in the late hunt would be that it would be similar to west Tn doe or antlerless week. Point being that either they need to add a tag to the existing hunts or add an antlerless hunt instead of earn a buck.

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Sounds. Good to me.

 

[Gonefishing2]

ORWMA will very likely be Earn a buck in the near future, if the addition of Doe tags to each hunt this yr (went from one buck and one antlerless to one buck and 2 antlerless) doesnt get the doe kill up some. DOE's one and only goal from allowing deer hunting on the Reservation is to reduce vehicle/deer collisions and any other problems the deer cause from getting in to areas they shouldnt. Most serious hunters put in for Oak Ridge simply to have a chance at a good buck and many simply never even consider shooting a doe. I see it coming!

DOE will stop the deer hunting if twra doesn't up the doe kills bigly. I know for a fact DOE has impact areas already killing almost all the deer in certain area's. They did it in a back door Fashion.

 

[EastTNHunter]

ORWMA will very likely be Earn a buck in the near future, if the addition of Doe tags to each hunt this yr (went from one buck and one antlerless to one buck and 2 antlerless) doesnt get the doe kill up some. DOE's one and only goal from allowing deer hunting on the Reservation is to reduce vehicle/deer collisions and any other problems the deer cause from getting in to areas they shouldnt. Most serious hunters put in for Oak Ridge simply to have a chance at a good buck and many simply never even consider shooting a doe. I see it coming!

DOE will stop the deer hunting if twra doesn't up the doe kills bigly. I know for a fact DOE has impact areas already killing almost all the deer in certain area's. They did it in a back door Fashion.

Funny, I was told that I was crazy when I suspected that this may be the case a few months back.

 

[Gonefishing2]

ORWMA will very likely be Earn a buck in the near future, if the addition of Doe tags to each hunt this yr (went from one buck and one antlerless to one buck and 2 antlerless) doesnt get the doe kill up some. DOE's one and only goal from allowing deer hunting on the Reservation is to reduce vehicle/deer collisions and any other problems the deer cause from getting in to areas they shouldnt. Most serious hunters put in for Oak Ridge simply to have a chance at a good buck and many simply never even consider shooting a doe. I see it coming!

DOE will stop the deer hunting if twra doesn't up the doe kills bigly. I know for a fact DOE has impact areas already killing almost all the deer in certain area's. They did it in a back door Fashion.

Funny, I was told that I was crazy when I suspected that this may be the case a few months back.

Your not crazy at all.

 

[MickThompson]

Hmmm...the doe only tags at OR might not be so crazy after all. Trying to stop gap having to go full on EAB on short duration hunts?


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