Eagle soybeans

[JCDEERMAN]

The eagle beans are about $80 a bag. So far the advantage of the Eagle bean is that they are the only RR forage bean. They can get eat down and still keep coming back.

Hey 8 points, what pound bag do you get for an $80 bag? Also, how much acreage does that $80 bag cover?

 

[DWM]

Typically beans have been bagged at 50 lb bags. The problem with that was farmers were having trouble buying the right amount of seed. The bag could have anywhere from 120000 to 160000 seed in them. Made it hard to figure out how many bags were needed because you didn't know how many seed were in a bag til after you bought them. Some companies have gone to 140,000 seed bags. The bag weight will vary from one batch to another. Cropland has gone to 140,000 count bag. Maybe 8 Points can tell us what Eagle is doing but my guess is they are still 50 lb bag. I usually figure 1 bag per acre for grain which for me is 140,000 seed per acre. For forage I would probably go up to 180-200,000 seed per acre if you have good ground. Even at 140,000 they will still produce good forage.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

I sure hope its not per acre. For the 15 acres we want to plant in Eagle, that would be $1200 plus shipping and tax. I thought I read somewhere that it would do up to 3 acres. If that was the case, it would cut our cost down to $400. We have some huge variables on our hands :D

 

[8 POINTS OR BETTER]

The eagle beans are about $80 a bag. So far the advantage of the Eagle bean is that they are the only RR forage bean. They can get eat down and still keep coming back.

Hey 8 points, what pound bag do you get for an $80 bag? Also, how much acreage does that $80 bag cover?

I planted one bag per acre. I dont remember if the bags were packaged by the pound or be the number of seeds.

 

[jmb4wd]

I think they Do 50lbs bags, but I know the seed count will vary because the big fellows seed is much larger than the large lad that I planted last year

 

[DWM]

I thought I read somewhere that it would do up to 3 acres.

You must have corn and soybeans mixed up. You can get almost 3 acres out of a bag of corn seed but not soybeans.

 

[JCDEERMAN]

I thought I read somewhere that it would do up to 3 acres.

You must have corn and soybeans mixed up. You can get almost 3 acres out of a bag of corn seed but not soybeans.

Well, I've planted corn plenty of times and know what it does. I think it was off another site like TNDEER, but another state. Maybe the guy didnt know what he was talking about

 

[onside]

The last three years I have planted 30 lbs per acre and they have done very well. I use a very wide row spacing obviously.

 

[Jarred525]

I spoke to Chuck Sykes from "The Management Advantage" show on the outdoor channel and he like to use 20 inch rows which comes to about 25 lbs per acre. I thought I may give this a whirl this year. Last year I did 50 lbs to the acre and it did fine.

 

[Jarred525]

Sorry typo, 30 inch rows.

 

[jmb4wd]

Sorry typo, 30 inch rows.

The beans that I planted for droptine, last spring, I planted on 28" rows, at 50lb per acre and it was no where near enough to endure the browse pressure in Nn almost 5 acre plot.

That is interesting that he is using such a light seeding rate, I wonder why?

I would love to learn his secret!!

 

[DWM]

I would have had to ask him how much browse pressure his plot receives, what type of soil, where is he located, is it upland or bottom land and how much moisture does it receive.

Let me list some disadvantages of wide row low population. It takes a lot longer to get a full canopy which in turn helps weed growth. It lets the sun dry the ground out a lot faster and in Tn moisture can be a major issue. The plant has to branch out a lot more which means it will put more growth into heavy strong stems instead of more foliage and finer tenderer stems. They actually grow slower in low populations. In higher populations the plants compete against each other for the most sun and try to outgrow the other plants. Even in higher population these disadvantages still have an impact on wide rows.

If you don't believe me I suggest you plant a few passes right in the middle of your plot in the higher population. The best way to do that is come back with the 30 or 28 inch planter and split the middle of the rows on a few passes. That way you will have some in the 15 inch range. You will be shocked at the difference in early growth and the advantage it will have later in the year. The biggest gain in beans come from 20 inch and narrower rows. There is still some advantages in 15 inches over 20. Anything under 15 doesn't gain much over the 15 inch rows.

 

[KubotaM4900]

DWM, row spacing on soybeans is something I have noticed for several years. I see some planting on the 30" while some drill at 15" or maybe less. It seems from an agricultural perspective that more rows equals more beans in the field. If they grow, and grow well on 15" why plant on anything else.I see that 30" rows will take until later in the growing season to reach a full canopy which may require spraying twice. I do realize some soils may not support high numbers per acre and your planter could be the factor also. But Ive seen some beans growning well in some fields you wouldnt think would grow anything. How do you determine areas that will support high numbers and narrow row spacing? I would think its based on the soil test and if its bottom land.

 

[Hollar Hunter]

When do you guys plant your Eagle beans?

 

[8 POINTS OR BETTER]

When do you guys plant your Eagle beans?

We planted a ridge top the last of April last year.

 

[jmb4wd]

I would say any time after last frost.

I planted some in bottom land soil on July 4th and they did great, but I wouldn't recommend it for any other type soil.

For the purpose that we use Eagles for in TN, I would say plant them as early as you can! That way you you can provide up to 6 months high quailty forage

 

[DWM]

DWM, row spacing on soybeans is something I have noticed for several years. I see some planting on the 30" while some drill at 15" or maybe less. It seems from an agricultural perspective that more rows equals more beans in the field. If they grow, and grow well on 15" why plant on anything else.I see that 30" rows will take until later in the growing season to reach a full canopy which may require spraying twice. I do realize some soils may not support high numbers per acre and your planter could be the factor also. But Ive seen some beans growning well in some fields you wouldnt think would grow anything. How do you determine areas that will support high numbers and narrow row spacing? I would think its based on the soil test and if its bottom land.

Narrow rows will always perform better in any soil type. Due to the growth characteristics of beans a high population within the row is also better for forage. Only if growing them for grain would I reduce the population in poor soil.

 

[DWM]

I would say any time after last frost.

For the purpose that we use Eagles for in TN, I would say plant them as early as you can! That way you you can provide up to 6 months high quailty forage

That is correct. Plant any bean as early as you can for forage purpose. Even a group 5 bean will grow bigger and provide more feed all summer. A mid group 5 bean will be done in late October to early November no mater when it is planted. It matures by daylight hours not how long it grows. Planted in late April will give you more growing time and earlier forage and will still be green as late as the same variety planted in June. Plus the early planted will canopy earlier before dry weather hits and will conserve more moisture to withstand the dry, hot weather better. Frost or early flooding is the ONLY disadvantage of planting soybeans early for forage that I can think of.