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Do You Hunt Deer With a Small Caliber Centerfire?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hunter 257W" data-source="post: 3080398" data-attributes="member: 12277"><p>I think the 243 should be the minimum for deer. Yeah, the 22's will get you by IF used by a good shot who understands the need for a controlled expansion bullet. But how many deer hunters really know how to choose the right bullet for a 22 centerfire for deer? I'd say fewer than 1/4. Most guys will grab a box of whatever is cheapest and go hunting. They have no idea that they are using a bullet that was designed to completely distintegrate inside a groundhog. And to make it worse, they shoot a deer with it standing broadside so that the bullet just has to penetrate a rib, the bullet grenades and the deer drops like it was struck by lightning. They interprete this to mean they have found the ultimate deer rifle. The next deer though doesn't present such an ideal shot but it's a nice buck so the hunter shoots taking a raking shot and you've got a deer with a horrible surface wound that is lost. Read all the stories from back when the 220 Swift 1st came out in 1934. Nobody had ever seen 4,000 fps muzzle velocities back then so they figured that the shock alone from this velocity would kill as if by magic. Hunters were shooting deer, elk, moose and even grizzly bears with the Swift and the factory 48gr bullet - AND they were getting "struck by lightning" kills - sometimes. Other times the results weren't so good. Soon it becamse obvious that the bad shots were happening far too often and people abandoned the Swift for the varmint rifle it was intended to be. Then in the 60's and 70's when the 17 centerfires got popular, people started trying them on big game. Same results. If the bullet could hit no more than a rib it would explode in the chest cavity and give instant kills. If you placed the bullet just a little off your intended mark or chose to take a risky shot it didn't turn out so well. </p><p></p><p> Yeah, today we have much better bullets for the small caliber(17's should not be used for deer no matter what though!) but as I sad before, very few deer hunters are gun savvy enough to chose the right bullet. For that reason, I think it's irresponsible to allow 22 centerfires for deer. If you can't handle the recoil of a 243, you aren't ready to deer hunt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hunter 257W, post: 3080398, member: 12277"] I think the 243 should be the minimum for deer. Yeah, the 22's will get you by IF used by a good shot who understands the need for a controlled expansion bullet. But how many deer hunters really know how to choose the right bullet for a 22 centerfire for deer? I'd say fewer than 1/4. Most guys will grab a box of whatever is cheapest and go hunting. They have no idea that they are using a bullet that was designed to completely distintegrate inside a groundhog. And to make it worse, they shoot a deer with it standing broadside so that the bullet just has to penetrate a rib, the bullet grenades and the deer drops like it was struck by lightning. They interprete this to mean they have found the ultimate deer rifle. The next deer though doesn't present such an ideal shot but it's a nice buck so the hunter shoots taking a raking shot and you've got a deer with a horrible surface wound that is lost. Read all the stories from back when the 220 Swift 1st came out in 1934. Nobody had ever seen 4,000 fps muzzle velocities back then so they figured that the shock alone from this velocity would kill as if by magic. Hunters were shooting deer, elk, moose and even grizzly bears with the Swift and the factory 48gr bullet - AND they were getting "struck by lightning" kills - sometimes. Other times the results weren't so good. Soon it becamse obvious that the bad shots were happening far too often and people abandoned the Swift for the varmint rifle it was intended to be. Then in the 60's and 70's when the 17 centerfires got popular, people started trying them on big game. Same results. If the bullet could hit no more than a rib it would explode in the chest cavity and give instant kills. If you placed the bullet just a little off your intended mark or chose to take a risky shot it didn't turn out so well. Yeah, today we have much better bullets for the small caliber(17's should not be used for deer no matter what though!) but as I sad before, very few deer hunters are gun savvy enough to chose the right bullet. For that reason, I think it's irresponsible to allow 22 centerfires for deer. If you can't handle the recoil of a 243, you aren't ready to deer hunt. [/QUOTE]
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