CWD spreading

[mike243]

What is the TWRA doing the large amount of money they get for CWD positives? , I would love to see a link as to how much $$ the state gets for a deer that shows up positive, Seeing as how the feds were involved on starting this cross species jump they need to pay all of the costs, who do you think is swindling all the big $$ TWRA is receiving?

 

[mike243]

Also post the studies that have shown it's not 100% fatal

 

[bloodtrailing]

If you kill all the deer it is a known fact you will not have any deer with CWD.

 

[Headhunter]

What is the TWRA doing the large amount of money they get for CWD positives? , I would love to see a link as to how much $$ the state gets for a deer that shows up positive, Seeing as how the feds were involved on starting this cross species jump they need to pay all of the costs, who do you think is swindling all the big $$ TWRA is receiving?

look at the whistleblower court case. why did the TWRA ask for sovereign immunity?

I don't remember but I have seen research that says cwd is not 100 percent fatal. If it is, how does colorado have any cervid animals left. Once it is in the ground it is THERE, for years! How are not all the animals there dead since it has been there since the 1960's?

 

[MickThompson]

@Headhunter how much do they get for each positive?

I've heard that one parroted across social media but nobody knows the horse's mouth it came from.

 

[MickThompson]

look at the whistleblower court case. why did the TWRA ask for sovereign immunity?

I don't remember but I have seen research that says cwd is not 100 percent fatal. If it is, how does colorado have any cervid animals left. Once it is in the ground it is THERE, for years! How are not all the animals there dead since it has been there since the 1960's?

Maybe because judgement is cheaper and quicker than a trial

 

[bloodtrailing]

@Headhunter how much do they get for each positive?

I've heard that one parroted across social media but nobody knows the horse's mouth it came from.

They receive "research" money. It is on their website.

 

[MickThompson]

They receive "research" money. It is on their website.

Completely different than being paid by the head

 

[Omega]

look at the whistleblower court case. why did the TWRA ask for sovereign immunity?

I don't remember but I have seen research that says cwd is not 100 percent fatal. If it is, how does colorado have any cervid animals left. Once it is in the ground it is THERE, for years! How are not all the animals there dead since it has been there since the 1960's?

As far as I have read CWD is fatal once a deer becomes infected, but not all deer become infected.

 

[Ski]

Completely different than being paid by the head

I agree. Urban legend is my guess. If federal money was being given for each positive, every state in the union would have a CWD catastrophe. While I have no doubt some federal funding supports CWD research I do have serious doubt that it's substantial enough create a big conspiracy and certainly not paid per each positive test.

 

[BSK]

As far as I have read CWD is fatal once a deer becomes infected, but not all deer become infected.

This.

Once contracted, CWD is fatal. However, no one knows if some deer are immune, and it is suspected that some are.

 

[Headhunter]

I support the game wardens, but the bioloigist, espeicially the deer biologist, and the upper management at TWRA leave a lot to be desired. The TWRA does bascially nothing with WMA's, close to zero crops, zero land management, well the work at Catoosa is good I think.

I beleive the TWRA lied or for sure was not fully honest as far as CWD is concerned. I am far from alone. I know of very few hunters and or fishermen who have much repsect for the TWRA anymore. From not doing anything about illegal aliens raping the fisheries, to the duck TRAVESTY, to CWD BS, the TWRA lost a lot of credibility with a huge number of people in TN. Evidently the whistleblower was covered up, forgot about, etc. If it was proven the whistleblower was full of hot air, I would apologize, but does anyone trust the government or the TWRA when it comes to a lawsuit of that type?

https://newschannel9.com/sports/outdoors/twra-files-for-sovereign-immunity-in-whistleblower-case

The TWRA has not publicly really said anything and the case has not went to trial. They fired the whistleblower and asked for sovereign immunity, sounds like BS to me.

 

[Headhunter]

This.

Once contracted, CWD is fatal. However, no one knows if some deer are immune, and it is suspected that some are.

If some deer are immune, why use the kill all the deer process? How does one know which deer could be immune? the kill all the deer approach accomplishes nothing in my opinion.

 

[fairchaser]

Dont worry about me, your neighbors will do the same. There wont be any point in managing for mature bucks between the state management plan and the disease itself. And I'll switch to another protein to consume.

Mega, I respect your views as I've read your comments through the years. From someone who's lived through this terrible plaque for almost ten years, this is not a one time slam dunk choice. Whitetail hunting is a lifestyle for those who like us have done it for decades. It's much more than a protein source. I still choose to hunt but it's not the same. As with any disease, we have to learn to live with the effects of it. There will always be a few mature bucks to chase, just way fewer. My best lifetime buck came two years ago well after CWD devastated our herd. I hate what it's done, but I haven't given up hunting these magnificent creatures. I hope it's many years before it happens to your property.

 

[bloodtrailing]

Completely different than being paid by the head

The higher the positives the more you qualify for in federal grants. They have to have a critical mass.

 

[bloodtrailing]

I agree. Urban legend is my guess. If federal money was being given for each positive, every state in the union would have a CWD catastrophe. While I have no doubt some federal funding supports CWD research I do have serious doubt that it's substantial enough create a big conspiracy and certainly not paid per each positive test.

See my other post. Also remember TWRA has a spending issue and need all money.

 

[backyardtndeer]

If some deer are immune, why use the kill all the deer process? How does one know which deer could be immune? the kill all the deer approach accomplishes nothing in my opinion.

The kill em all approach may actually kill those deer that have some immunity, making for a counterproductive practice. The aggressive approach in west Tennessee obviously hasn't worked.

 

[MCO8891]

All that the the "kill all them approach" does is give more opportunities for an infected deer to be illegally transported into an area that doesn't have cwd.

 

[MickThompson]

The higher the positives the more you qualify for in federal grants. They have to have a critical mass.

Source?

 

[bloodtrailing]

Source?

You can google federal grant application for CWD.

 

[MickThompson]

You can google federal grant application for CWD.

So you don't have a source besides your imagination. Gotcha.

How does funding outside research by a university pay the light bill?

 

[mike243]

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How Much States Receive for CWD-Positive Deer

States and Tribal governments receive annual federal funding to manage and research chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer and other cervids, but the amounts vary depending on the program and the state's CWD status.

Recent federal funding allocations

• In 2025, the U.S. Department of Agriculture's APHIS allocated about $12 million to states and tribes for CWD control, testing, and research. This split roughly $6 million for farmed cervid programs (based on herd size and CWD status) and $6 million for wild cervid research and management www.aphis.usda.gov.
• The CWD Research and Management Act (passed in 2023) provides $70 million per year through fiscal year 2028, split equally between research ($35M) and management ($35M) Senator Martin Heinrich. States and tribes apply for competitive funding for management activities, with allocations based on need, outbreak severity, and prior participation.

State-level spending and costs

• In 2021, wildlife agencies in 16 CWD-positive states spent an average of $773,000 annually on CWD management, including sampling, testing, salaries, and supplies Senator Martin Heinrich+1.
• Costs vary widely: from under $8,000 in some states to over $2 million in others Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.
• Many states spend heavily even without confirmed CWD cases for early detection, e.g., New York spends ~$300,000/year on surveillance National Deer Association.

Federal investment vs. state costs

• The federal government currently invests about $10 million/year in CWD management through cooperative agreements Senator Martin Heinrich+1.
• States and tribes must cover most of the rest from their own budgets, with few legislative bonuses for CWD National Deer Association.

Bottom line:
States don't get a fixed "per deer" payment for CWD-positive animals. Instead, they receive annual federal grants for CWD programs, with amounts determined by program type, CWD status, and competitive application. For example, in 2025 APHIS gave ~$12M total, and the new law will give $70M/year starting in 2024, but most of the cost burden remains with states and tribes.

 

[bloodtrailing]

So you don't have a source besides your imagination. Gotcha.

How does funding outside research by a university pay the light bill?

Just because you do not like it does not make it imaginary.

 

[MickThompson]

Just because you do not like it does not make it imaginary.

It's imaginary if you can't bring the receipts

How does funding outside research by a university pay the water bill?

 

[Ski]

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How Much States Receive for CWD-Positive Deer

States and Tribal governments receive annual federal funding to manage and research chronic wasting disease (CWD) in deer and other cervids, but the amounts vary depending on the program and the state's CWD status.

Recent federal funding allocations

• In 2025, the U.S. Department of Agriculture's APHIS allocated about $12 million to states and tribes for CWD control, testing, and research. This split roughly $6 million for farmed cervid programs (based on herd size and CWD status) and $6 million for wild cervid research and management www.aphis.usda.gov.
• The CWD Research and Management Act (passed in 2023) provides $70 million per year through fiscal year 2028, split equally between research ($35M) and management ($35M) Senator Martin Heinrich. States and tribes apply for competitive funding for management activities, with allocations based on need, outbreak severity, and prior participation.

State-level spending and costs

• In 2021, wildlife agencies in 16 CWD-positive states spent an average of $773,000 annually on CWD management, including sampling, testing, salaries, and supplies Senator Martin Heinrich+1.
• Costs vary widely: from under $8,000 in some states to over $2 million in others Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership.
• Many states spend heavily even without confirmed CWD cases for early detection, e.g., New York spends ~$300,000/year on surveillance National Deer Association.

Federal investment vs. state costs

• The federal government currently invests about $10 million/year in CWD management through cooperative agreements Senator Martin Heinrich+1.
• States and tribes must cover most of the rest from their own budgets, with few legislative bonuses for CWD National Deer Association.

Bottom line:
States don't get a fixed "per deer" payment for CWD-positive animals. Instead, they receive annual federal grants for CWD programs, with amounts determined by program type, CWD status, and competitive application. For example, in 2025 APHIS gave ~$12M total, and the new law will give $70M/year starting in 2024, but most of the cost burden remains with states and tribes.

Thank you for posting! That sounds reasonable and realistic.

 

[Novocaine]

"with allocations based on need, outbreak severity, and prior participation."

Allocations based on outbreak severity are a monetary incentive for more positive cases to be reported.