cwd and eating deer

[GRIT]

Who will not have there deer tested.
And for the ones that do have them tested.If you kill one and it's positive will you still eat it or give it to someone.
And who is just gonna keep on eating them without knowing if they have cwd.
And yes i know that no human has gotten cwd from eating deer.

 

[poorhunter]

I don't live in the hot zone, but don't plan on eating any deer that's not tested.

 

[cbhunter]

I want to test mine and will not eat positive deer. Will testing be available statewide?


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[Matador]

Testing will probably be available, but what will it cost us.

 

[fairchaser]

Testing will probably be available, but what will it cost us.

Inside the CMZ, the state will test the deer at their expense indefinitely. At least that's what they said during the meeting Q&A in Bolivar. Outside the CMZ, you will be on your own for testing. I guess it's just gonna be part of the budget forever now that we have it. They don't want hunters to stop hunting because they have to test deer at their own deer expense.

 

[MUP]

I'm eating the deer that I killed this season right now, no test. When it is found here, I suppose I'll have it tested(likely mandatory by that time IMO), but until then I'm still eating what I kill, saying the blessing over each meal.

 

[TNTreeman]

I'm eating the deer that I killed this season right now, no test. When it is found here, I suppose I'll have it tested(likely mandatory by that time IMO), but until then I'm still eating what I kill, saying the blessing over each meal.

I'm with you my friend. I'll bet it's a lot better than half the stuff we get at fast food spots or the grocery.

 

[TDW05]

Wonder how many y'all west side boys have ate already and nothing has happened? I'll continue to eat what I kill until they determine it causes serious health problems.

 

[Lost Lake]

When my area is in the hot zone, I'll have my kills tested. Until then, I'm going about my business as usual. I'm not making light of the situation by any means, but I'm more scared of food at the grocery store and for dang sure more worried about drinking city water than anything.

And I do take it serious. Deer hunting is a big part of my life.

 

[AT Hiker]

... I'll continue to eat what I kill until they determine it causes serious health problems.

Lol, wouldn't it be a bit late then?

I say do your research and get a feel for what science knows (or doesn't know) about prions and particularly CWD.






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[fairchaser]

Wouldn't you hate to open the newspaper someday and read the headline "Scientific study finds connection between CWD in cervids and "xxx" disease in humans 10 years after exposure".

 

[DRSJ35]

Question i have where can i get it tested in east tn.I would like to get mine tested next season before i eat it.With people saying its not in my area.So i will continue to kill and eat.Problem i have is i dont know that in greene county where i live we have ever had any testing done.I dont want to be the first to gobble all these infected deer up.Then find out cwd is rampant in my area.So what do me and others do,.

 

[cbhunter]

Question i have where can i get it tested in east tn.I would like to get mine tested next season before i eat it.With people saying its not in my area.So i will continue to kill and eat.Problem i have is i dont know that in greene county where i live we have ever had any testing done.I dont want to be the first to gobble all these infected deer up.Then find out cwd is rampant in my area.So what do me and others do,.

great question. I'm one county over for Madison and I'm not sure where I can even get one tested. I'll gladly pay but where??!!??


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[TDW05]

... I'll continue to eat what I kill until they determine it causes serious health problems.

Lol, wouldn't it be a bit late then?

That's what I'm saying lol everyone has probably been eating diseased deer for years...it didn't just pop up out of the blue.

 

[duckduck84]

Wouldn't you hate to open the newspaper someday and read the headline "Scientific study finds connection between CWD in cervids and "xxx" disease in humans 10 years after exposure".

Crap happens, but it hasn't so far. Pretty much got a 1 in 2 chance of dying of cancer or a heart attack from everything else in this world that we consume or handle. Worrying about CWD because MAYBE there is some minuscule chance it could impact humans is something I just can't imagine rational people should spend alot of time thinking about.

 

[poorhunter]

Wouldn't you hate to open the newspaper someday and read the headline "Scientific study finds connection between CWD in cervids and "xxx" disease in humans 10 years after exposure".

Crap happens, but it hasn't so far. Pretty much got a 1 in 2 chance of dying of cancer or a heart attack from everything else in this world that we consume or handle. Worrying about CWD because MAYBE there is some minuscule chance it could impact humans is something I just can't imagine rational people should spend alot of time thinking about.

I do understand what you're saying Duck, but I just couldn't eat meat from a deer that has a disease that is 100% fatal to them and causes them to die the way they do. Did you not also say you wouldn't eat one that tested positive? I'm not for sure, so I'm not accusing you of saying that, but wouldn't you go ahead and eat one even if it tested positive based on this post above?

 

[duckduck84]

Wouldn't you hate to open the newspaper someday and read the headline "Scientific study finds connection between CWD in cervids and "xxx" disease in humans 10 years after exposure".

Crap happens, but it hasn't so far. Pretty much got a 1 in 2 chance of dying of cancer or a heart attack from everything else in this world that we consume or handle. Worrying about CWD because MAYBE there is some minuscule chance it could impact humans is something I just can't imagine rational people should spend alot of time thinking about.

I do understand what you're saying Duck, but I just couldn't eat meat from a deer that has a disease that is 100% fatal to them and causes them to die the way they do. Did you not also say you wouldn't eat one that tested positive? I'm not for sure, so I'm not accusing you of saying that, but wouldn't you go ahead and eat one even if it tested positive based on this post above?

I understand that and everyone has to make their own choice. You are correct, I did say that. I will take advantage of testing, and no I would not eat one that tests positive because of the CDC recommendations. However, I have a deer in my freezer that has not been tested and I will eat that deer. I guess my point is that I can understand people not wanting to eat a positive tested deer, I think that's good practice for multiple reasons, mostly because of the chance the deer has other issues that could cause human health concerns, such as an infection.

What I'm having such a hard time with is people on here that seem to be pushing a continuous scare tactic narrative that this could jump to humans and so we better all read every piece of scientific research out there, but probably not eat the deer anyway because, ya know, it could happen. It's just not logical to me and it all seems very based in fear of the unknown as opposed to looking at the facts and logic.

 

[TDW05]

What's the point in continuing to hunt then? Just for sport and bragging rights? Your taking a chance killing an animal for no reason if your not gonna eat it? Do y'all honestly think y'all have never ate an already infected deer?

 

[fairchaser]

What's the point in continuing to hunt then? Just for sport and bragging rights? Your taking a chance killing an animal for no reason if your not gonna eat it? Do y'all honestly think y'all have never ate an already infected deer?

Some will and already hunt for sport only. That's their choice. As long as they obey the laws then they should be supported. I personally enjoy venison but my kids are gone and my wife won't eat it or cook it so it's up to me. I will continue to eat deer that test negative. I'm not gonna eat a deer that tests positive even though I might have eaten some before. Ignorance is blind but I'm no longer ignorant about CWD. I can't blindly eat a deer if I don't know if it was sick with a deadly disease especially one that can't be cooked or frozen away. Jmo

 

[BULL MOOSE]

Testing will probably be available, but what will it cost us.

Inside the CMZ, the state will test the deer at their expense indefinitely. At least that's what they said during the meeting Q&A in Bolivar. Outside the CMZ, you will be on your own for testing. I guess it's just gonna be part of the budget forever now that we have it. They don't want hunters to stop hunting because they have to test deer at their own deer expense.

Sportsmen pay for it with the purchase of a license. The CWD area tests will be subsidized by other sportsmen who purchase a license.

 

[bloodtrailing]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

 

[duckduck84]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

 

[Omega]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

The premise is that if any of the infected deer were processed by a commercial processor, the meat cross-contaminated non-CWD infected deer. I know they do bulk grinding for ground venison and sausage, so "your" deer isn't necessarily "your" deer. As to scientific proof of prions being in the meat, well I'll leave that to the scientists to figure that out, and the doctors to figure out the species jump of CWD.

 

[duckduck84]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

The premise is that if any of the infected deer were processed by a commercial processor, the meat cross-contaminated non-CWD infected deer. I know they do bulk grinding for ground venison and sausage, so "your" deer isn't necessarily "your" deer. As to scientific proof of prions being in the meat, well I'll leave that to the scientists to figure that out, and the doctors to figure out the species jump of CWD.

I know what he was saying, but I think cross-contamination at that stage is pretty low-risk, if even existent. Now, yes, if a processor does bulk grinding then that could be an issue you would have to weigh. Mine does not so I know what I am getting back is truly my deer. That is a conversation people need to have with their processors on the front end. I would also imagine, or at least hope, that the practice of doing that would be going away, especially in the CWD zone.

 

[bloodtrailing]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

Science is not required. As mentioned most processors bulk grind meat for either pure ground or sausage products. Even if a processor says he grinds one deer there is still residual in the grinder. He does not do one and clean. He is doing it all day with multiple deer.




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[duckduck84]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

Science is not required. As mentioned most processors bulk grind meat for either pure ground or sausage products. Even if a processor says he grinds one deer there is still residual in the grinder. He does not do one and clean. He is doing it all day with multiple deer.

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"Science is not required". That's an interesting take on it lol If prions can be transferred that way, and I think it is still a big "if" then really the only choices we have is to give up hunting entirely or store boned out meat until the test clears and then process ourselves. We all also have to use Havalons so we can swap blades each time or knife shopping is going to get expensive. Of course there is also the issue that test doesn't really fully clear the animal since the prion could be there, but just not in enough quantity to show up.

 

[TDW05]

I seen something today that got me thinking. If a dog eats an infected deer, will that dog get the disease? I'm guessing it will but I'm not certain.

 

[TDW05]

Well a quick search and I guess they can't.

 

[bloodtrailing]

If you have eaten deer meat from a processor in the primary zone you have eaten meat from an infected deer. The question is will you eat more knowing.

Care to expand on that thought process with some scientific back-up?

Science is not required. As mentioned most processors bulk grind meat for either pure ground or sausage products. Even if a processor says he grinds one deer there is still residual in the grinder. He does not do one and clean. He is doing it all day with multiple deer.

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"Science is not required". That's an interesting take on it lol If prions can be transferred that way, and I think it is still a big "if" then really the only choices we have is to give up hunting entirely or store boned out meat until the test clears and then process ourselves. We all also have to use Havalons so we can swap blades each time or knife shopping is going to get expensive. Of course there is also the issue that test doesn't really fully clear the animal since the prion could be there, but just not in enough quantity to show up.

I stated the likelihood of eating meat from a deer that has CWD. You are asking about Prion movement in the meat, two different things.


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[duckduck84]

I stated the likelihood of eating meat from a deer that has CWD. You are asking about Prion movement in the meat, two different things.


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I'm actually not asking anything, I'm debating your sweeping statement.