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getting a new rifle after all the santy clause buisness is over, can not decide od 270 or 7mm mag. all shots will be inside of 300 yards or i wont pull the trigger, we are planning a mullie, antelope combo in a couple years and this will be the gun i take, any suggestions appreciated!
 
If your planning on antelope hunting you should probably go with the 7mm or one of the new WSM's, as you should fully expect to have to shoot out to 400yards and beyond on those danged speed goats. Also remember to mount good optics, a 3x9 is just not enough out here on the front range. My "antelope gun" wears a 6-18x44 Bushnell, and the 300WSM wears a Burris MTAC 6.5-20x50 and I am considering upgrading it.
 
For Mule deer I'd go with a 7mm Rem Mag. The 270 would do fine though as long as you shot a good bonded or monolithic bullet, like a Barnes TTSX or a Nosler E-Tip.
 
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DonW said:
If your planning on antelope hunting you should probably go with the 7mm or one of the new WSM's, as you should fully expect to have to shoot out to 400yards and beyond on those danged speed goats. Also remember to mount good optics, a 3x9 is just not enough out here on the front range. My "antelope gun" wears a 6-18x44 Bushnell, and the 300WSM wears a Burris MTAC 6.5-20x50 and I am considering upgrading it.
will not pull trigger past 300 possibly 200 just is not hunting to me once you get past those ranges, have to draw the line at target practice somewhere. besides im not that good of shot lol, curious why you need such magnified optics? im not checking to see if they have fleas before i shoot lol i do appreciate reply im just not a target shooter kind of hunter
 
im sorry but when it comes to out west and optics id rather have clarity than any increased magnification

a good 3x9x40 or 3.5x10x44 zeiss works fine at 300 yds all day long

either round will work fine for your purpose
 
Getting close on antelopes is tough out here. There is no cover and the can see you coming a long way off. It is possible to get relatively close using blinds and setting up over water or where they go under fences, but if your stalking be prepared to work hard to get within 400 yards and even harder to close within 300. Trust me, this isn't target practice, although when I moved out here I sort of thought along those lines

I have such good glass on my rifles because I don't like to guess where I'm shooting, I prefer exact shot placement even way out there. I use a range finder, ballistics program and kestrel when I'm in the field hunting, elevation can range from 6000 to 8000 feet in a hurry, and the winds are always there and few trees to block them.they can be 5mph left at your shooting position, 15 mph right at 200 yards and 10mph left at the target, so reading mirage and other wind indicators are key to making clean hits.
Do I need all the equipment etc? Yeah I think so, I have adapted to the conditions out here, changing from the idea that I never needed any of this to understanding how hard it is to hit, reliably, put to 400 plus yards. And realizing that unless I wanted to sit in a blind over a water hole all day and just wait for an animal to wander by I was never going to get a 100 yard shot on a speed goat.
Of course your experience may vary, you might be a much better stalker than I am out have a better guide (I actually have never had a guided hunt, which could be the first of many things I'm doing wrong) or just get lucky. I have just come to expect 200 yard minimum shots, and more likely 400 plus.
 
Either way, I don't consider one gun as the solution just because the two animals inhabit the same country (sometimes).

A 270 is plenty of caliber for either one but don't go all that way with just one rifle. Don't have my books handy but I believe the 270 will carry a 140 grain round out to 300 with not much more drop than a 7mm. Retained energy st 300 (FPS) I cannot recall. 400 there is a bigger spread

As for optics, a 200+ yard shot at dusk is more likely than not although i have shot Mulies at 25 to 250 in the same exact valley. If you carry decent binoc's and you cannot replicate the view through your scope, you are lost. Get good optics and practice with them a lot.

And start getting in shape right now. I died with severe leg cramps first two years. Wear your intended hunting boots non-stop so you don't end up with blisters. Antelope hunting is a lot of ridge climbing and slippin' up to the crest to see what you can see.

Now, if you go for Elk, different story. Hunted Rifle, Meeker, Craig 8 consecutive years. After a bad experience with my 06 I got a 300 and carried my Magnum at all times with my 06 as backup (Magnum loaded hot with 180 partitions 06 with 150's).
 
Deer Assassin said:
im sorry but when it comes to out west and optics id rather have clarity than any increased magnification

a good 3x9x40 or 3.5x10x44 zeiss works fine at 300 yds all day long

either round will work fine for your purpose
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No way you will be able to tell a difference between the two. I have (3) .284" guns and (3) .277" guns. The difference between the very fastest and the slowest is about 0.5 moa at 400 yards - all with a 200 yard zero.

Pick a gun that fits you and feels right and go with it. Spend some money on optics and a dial.

Good luck and Merry Christmas-
 
270 imo but either would be good. as said before put good optics on it a zeiss or leupold. personally I would put a little bigger then a 3-9 but as said before it would work. but I would put a little more magnification on it. your gun is only as good as your optics.
 

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