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big 8s in Weakley county

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I got a question. Me and a buddy hunt about 1000 acres total. We never see a big deer or even a decent like 6 or 8 point on it. But we always see alot off does and alot of little spikes and 3 and 4 points. I have run my trail cam and all i have pics of so far is little deer. Also some of them will be messed up and not very typical like a big spike and a side with 3 points. He hunts a farm no farther than 600 yards away and he sees alot of older and bigger deer. Also some small deer. It is this way every year. What would make the deer be so different in so little of distance. Also it is all the same kind of ground farm land with ponds and woods.
 
I would say it was someone shooting them but it is both are familys that hunt it and alot of them people that hunt around us dont shoot yearlings either. Also it is in ky were you can only kill 1 buck.
 
Even where it is practiced we see so many spikes,4's and small racked 6's and 8's that are never seen again in subsequent years in any large numbers......Still you have to let some walk to get them to a large size. I cant explain where they go or what exactly happens to them but it is for sure that they dont all make it for one reason or the other. Remember a deer fights to survive 365 not just during the hunting season.........
 
Too often, hunters assume deer will "spread out" and equalize themselves across the landscape, but nothing could be further from the truth. I regularly see instances of "pockets" of high and low densities in very close geographic proximity. Additionally, I see pockets of very different sex ratio and buck age structure in very close proximity. One year, the sex ratio at the southern end of my property held steady at 2 does per buck for the entire season while at the northern end, just 3/4 of a mile away, the sex ratio held at 4 bucks per doe for the season.

Local differences in herd dynamics are usually most dramatic during the summer. For the survival of the species, does are dominant over bucks during the fawning season. They will dominate the best habitat to increase the chances of their fawns' survival (best food and cover resources). Does with fawns will literally dominate bucks right out of the best habitat. When a single landowner is doing all they can to improve the habitat of their property, often what happens is that property becomes an island of great habitat surrounded by a sea of poorer habitat. The great habitat of the managed property becomes dominated by does social groups in summer forcing the bucks off the property onto the surrounding poorer habitat. Now once the breeding season rolls around the property will see a big influx of new bucks once the dominating effects of mothering does declines.

It is not uncommon at all to see an area with very few bucks during summer suddenly become flooded with new bucks come late October or early November. I would run cameras all season long (not over bait) and see what shows up, especially in November. If there are older bucks in the area, they will travel into that property come the rut.
 
We have seen similar on our property in west tn.
Last year we saw at least 7-10 differnt small bucks spikes to 4 points and very few does. The neighbors across the street killed 2 eight points & 2 ten points and saw several does every day. The previous ower did shoot every buck they saw so that could have been part of the problem. We just got the property last year and have done as much as we can to improve the habitat. We will see how it goes this next year but I do understand what you are seeing. Really intrusting stuff the way deer use the land.
 
BSK said:
Too often, hunters assume deer will "spread out" and equalize themselves across the landscape, but nothing could be further from the truth. I regularly see instances of "pockets" of high and low densities in very close geographic proximity. Additionally, I see pockets of very different sex ratio and buck age structure in very close proximity. One year, the sex ratio at the southern end of my property held steady at 2 does per buck for the entire season while at the northern end, just 3/4 of a mile away, the sex ratio held at 4 bucks per doe for the season.

Local differences in herd dynamics are usually most dramatic during the summer. For the survival of the species, does are dominant over bucks during the fawning season. They will dominate the best habitat to increase the chances of their fawns' survival (best food and cover resources). Does with fawns will literally dominate bucks right out of the best habitat. When a single landowner is doing all they can to improve the habitat of their property, often what happens is that property becomes an island of great habitat surrounded by a sea of poorer habitat. The great habitat of the managed property becomes dominated by does social groups in summer forcing the bucks off the property onto the surrounding poorer habitat. Now once the breeding season rolls around the property will see a big influx of new bucks once the dominating effects of mothering does declines.

It is not uncommon at all to see an area with very few bucks during summer suddenly become flooded with new bucks come late October or early November. I would run cameras all season long (not over bait) and see what shows up, especially in November. If there are older bucks in the area, they will travel into that property come the rut.



Thanks I have 2 cameras and i will run the cameras all the time. How often would you move them around.
 
big 8's in Weakley county said:
Thanks I have 2 cameras and i will run the cameras all the time. How often would you move them around.

I check my cameras (pull the cards) every week to two weeks. I try to move my cameras each time I check them, even if that only means moving a camera to the other end of the same food plot they were already on, or shifting them to a different section of a trail system, or to a new scrape.
 

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