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[deerchaser007]

In your method of plotting, were you do not break ground,.. how much do you overseed?

One of my plots is way to hard to break ground due to the slope,.. and i attempted this method last year,.. but it came out way thin.I'm getting mixed opinions from others on the amount, so just curious how much extra you throw in that way i can get some idea for what i need to do this year. I'm going nothing but winter wheat and crimson in this one due to cost,.. then frost seeding red clover in late feb.
THANKS!!

 

[BSK]

Generally 50% more than recommended for turned ground.

 

[landman]

You should be frost seeding white clover verses Red

 

[BSK]

You should be frost seeding white clover verses Red

Ree clovers have some advantages over white clovers, especially summer production.

 

[deerchaser007]

You should be frost seeding white clover verses Red

Ree clovers have some advantages over white clovers, especially summer production.

They also withstand summer drought conditions much,MUCH better.Especially on conditions like a slope i was referring to. In summer,.. i see no difference in preference from red to white clover. Red also tends to frost seed more successfully over white.

 

[landman]

I've not had a problem even in this years severe heat with the white, but I do soil test and lime. And year around the white out produces the red, but I'm using a Imperial White Tail blend. Most of my are on southwestern slopes.

If you go back to your reading materials, QDMA and others white, or a blend with white, gets the pick

 

[Football Hunter]

I've not had a problem even in this years severe heat with the white, but I do soil test and lime. And year around the white out produces the red, but I'm using a Imperial White Tail blend. Most of my are on southwestern slopes.

If you go back to your reading materials, QDMA and others white, or a blend with white, gets the pick

Its what I remember,but everyone has different results I guess,I dont even use red,now that my Durana is established,just frost seed each spring.

 

[Boone 58]

plot planting time just around the corner.

 

[deerchaser007]

I've not had a problem even in this years severe heat with the white, but I do soil test and lime. And year around the white out produces the red, but I'm using a Imperial White Tail blend. Most of my are on southwestern slopes.

If you go back to your reading materials, QDMA and others white, or a blend with white, gets the pick

I have no problem with white clover landman,.. i actually have a 1 acre plot of imperial chicory plus,.. heres a recent pic i took a few weeks back.

As you can see,I'm not having a problem with it either. And acording to my soil test every 3 years,. i'm doing pretty dang good with lime and fertilizer myself.

If you read materials from Dr Craig Harper,.. you will see that red out produces white in the months of july, august, and september,... and in his studies red was more preferred by deer over all other perennial cool season forages. I don't care what QDMA says and most others that will say anything for dollar,. Dr Harper has done the research right here in our state in our dirt,.. i stand by what his research has produced and what i have seen and experienced.

Besides,.. i have a perennial plot,.. i'm looking at a winter annual planting,. but will frost seed the red in for alittle summer forage along with the natural browse that grows in with it.

 

[BSK]

I've never seen a study that showed whites outperforming reds during the summer months. Most white clovers go dormant during the summer months--especially in dry-soil environments--and that's why I don't use it for summer plots.