BSK....Ladder Stand Help

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Per what we were discussing...
Go to 30-06 Outdoors and look for the 2nd Man HD Kit Ladder Stand Hoist. My buddy got the HD(heavy duty and recommends you do the same). I think they sell for about $100.00. When you use the plates with the spikes that hold the base of the ladder stand secure you can either leave them with the stand or remove them for use on other stands. You can buy the extra bases if you wish. This thing makes the job of putting up ladder stands up to 20' high a piece of cake compared to wrestling with them by hand.
 
You truly are DA' MAN today Mike! :)

Looks like I have a new item on my Christmas list! Very cool...!
 
I bought one of these last year and it works. Just be careful when you are cranking it up and watch the handle so that it doesen't get into the strap. I did this and was busy watching the Stand and cut the strap that goes around the tree with the handle and the stand fell to the ground. Sort of a design failure. You can crank it without hitting the strap but sometimes it gets difficult to do.
 
Night and day compared to doing it by hand....going up or coming down. I own 1 ladder stand but it's a single pole 20 footer that's different from any other ladder stand. It's pretty easy for 1 man to put up and everything is done from the ground including tying it off to the tree. When you climb it it's to hunt. If I did have any regular type ladder stands I guarantee you I'd own a HD 2nd man.

The way it works is...you strap the winch to the tree and let out enough strap to hook to a ladder rung close to the top. It comes with 2 flat pieces of metal. On 1 side is a spike and on the other is a swiveling peg. Put the stand together on the ground and position the bottom of the ladder where it'll stand at the base of the tree when it's up. Stick the spike in the ground and raise the leg of the ladder to put the peg inside the channel of the ladder. This holds the base of the stand in place while the stand is going up and the swiveling leg allows the base of the stand to swivel from a horizontal position to an upright position. Then just crank it up until it's leaning against the tree, climb up, and strap her down. Reverse that for lowering. It helps to have another guy to help guide it up and get it off the ground initially but you don't have to have them.
 
I just bought one. It was slightly cheaper on Eders.com (that I've used before & can use Paypal) because of less shipping charges.
 
Mike,

I think I grasp how this thing works, but I'm not totally sure.

Is the winch on the tree at the bottom of the tree, or do you have to use a ladder and winch from it? My grasp is that there is not a ladder involved, but wanted to make sure before I ordered.

Thanks,
Steve
 
scn said:
Mike,

I think I grasp how this thing works, but I'm not totally sure.

Is the winch on the tree at the bottom of the tree, or do you have to use a ladder and winch from it? My grasp is that there is not a ladder involved, but wanted to make sure before I ordered.

Thanks,
Steve
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Steve,
No ladder involved, according to this short video commercial that quickly shows how it is used. I'm thinking about getting one myself, or possibly making one since I know I have a spare wench for a boat trailer sitting in my garage.
 
Definitely looks to be a sweet deal, especially when putting up 16 ft 2 man ladder stands, which is what the few I have are!
 
Winchester said:
Definitely looks to be a sweet deal, especially when putting up 16 ft 2 man ladder stands, which is what the few I have are!
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We've got a bunch of them too, and we usually need three people to take one down, carry it to a new location, and put it back up.

I've got to get one of those things.
 
Anyone possibly ordering these things....they make 2 versions. One is a heavy duty. I think the smaller unit is rated at 600 lbs and the heavy duty is rated at 1200 lbs...or something like that. Get the heavy duty.
 
I can tell you from experience that the original kit would not work with the 2 man ladder stands because of their additional weight at the top. The ladder would bend at the upper ladder connection as you were raising it. And the only improvement I see on the HD kit is the increased weight limit of the winch and strap which will not solve that problem. The top portion of the 2 man stands is too heavy to keep the ladder from bending unless you mount the winch higher on the tree.
 
If your using one of the newer 15 or 16-foot 2-person buddy ladders that has a brace running from the floor section down to the bottom of the first ladder section, you should be OK. They don't bend near where the ladder meets the floor, or "cage" section. However, if you're using one of the older/cheaper ones that doesn't have a brace, and the ladder sections are removable right up to the floor, don't add extra ladder sections (keep it 12' tall instead of 16') and you should be alright. But an extra ladder section, making the stand 16', can be a problem (ladder bending). We had to stop trying to add ladder sections to the older 2-person ladder stands. The ladders would bend right where the ladder meets the floor as the stand was being walked up against the tree.
 
BSK said:
If your using one of the newer 15 or 16-foot 2-person buddy ladders that has a brace running from the floor section down to the bottom of the first ladder section, you should be OK. They don't bend near where the ladder meats the floor, or "cage" section. However, if you're using one of the older/cheaper ones that doesn't have a brace, and the ladder sections are removable right up to the floor, don't add extra ladder sections (keep it 12' tall instead of 16') and you should be alright. But an extra ladder section, making the stand 16', can be a problem (ladder bending). We had to stop trying to add ladder sections to the older 2-person ladder stands. The ladders would bend right where the ladder meets the floor as the stand was being walked up against the tree.
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I put up two different 16 ft. two man ladder stands this year and I took out one section of ladder which made each stand about 10-12 ft. high. I have not been spotted in either one of them yet that I am aware of even with the foilage gone. The lower height keeps me out of the skyline. I have had deer within 15 yards on several occasions. Both locations have the features necessary to keep me hidden though. I do enjoy the safety and security of the ladder stands more and more.
 
BSK said:
If your using one of the newer 15 or 16-foot 2-person buddy ladders that has a brace running from the floor section down to the bottom of the first ladder section, you should be OK. They don't bend near where the ladder meats the floor, or "cage" section. However, if you're using one of the older/cheaper ones that doesn't have a brace, and the ladder sections are removable right up to the floor, don't add extra ladder sections (keep it 12' tall instead of 16') and you should be alright. But an extra ladder section, making the stand 16', can be a problem (ladder bending). We had to stop trying to add ladder sections to the older 2-person ladder stands. The ladders would bend right where the ladder meets the floor as the stand was being walked up against the tree.
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I put up two different 16 ft. two man ladder stands this year and I took out one section of ladder which made each stand about 10-12 ft. high. I have not been spotted in either one of them yet that I am aware of even with the foilage gone. The lower height keeps me out of the skyline. I have had deer within 15 yards on several occasions. Both locations have the features necessary to keep me hidden though. I do enjoy the safety and security of the ladder stands more and more.
 
We do more hunting out of 12-foot tall 2-person ladder stands than any other stand type. We are rarely seen by deer while in one of those stand. Of course, wrapping every stand in burlap really helps too.

Here's one of our stands (happened to show up in a trail-cam picture). All the deer can see is your head and top of your shoulders:
 
BSK said:
We do more hunting out of 12-foot tall 2-person ladder stands than any other stand type. We are rarely seen by deer while in one of those stand. Of course, wrapping every stand in burlap really helps too.

Here's one of our stands (happened to show up in a trail-cam picture). All the deer can see is your head and top of your shoulders:
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I never had any luck hunting at 12 ft , I always was getting busted . I started adding 1 sometimes 2 ladder sections and adding extra braces , haven't had problem yet
 
southernhunter said:
I never had any luck hunting at 12 ft , I always was getting busted . I started adding 1 sometimes 2 ladder sections and adding extra braces , haven't had problem yet
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We must have extra stupid deer, as we rarely get busted in our 12-footers. I get bust more often in our 16-foot single-person ladders, as they have no shooting rail, hence no burlap around them. That burlap wraps makes a HUGE difference. You can get away with all sorts of movement behind those wraps.
 

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